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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As a high school teacher I have no sympathy. This happens to my students all the time. They all truly believe and say things like “it’s illegal to not let me use my personal property.” They don’t get that this is why we have to use the phone pouches at school- to try and corral the phone use because they can’t independently manage it. Then they get fired from their jobs and have the nerve to think they were somehow wrongfully terminated or, as in one girl’s case, she literally blamed school. Said she wished WE had done more to help her understand how serious it is not to be on your phone at work. They don’t get it, it’s crazy. [/quote]

+1. I'm also a high school teacher.  We aren't allowed to give real consequences without many, many repeat offenses and a paper trail of documentation, and even then probably not.  Our private school has a no-phones in class rule, but this means that each day almost every kid pulls out their phone more than once in every class and is gently reminded by each teacher to put it away because they aren't allowed to have it.  Rules aren't really enforced the way they were when you were in high school, and students are taught that their desires and "rights" to do what they want/break rules are of utmost importance.  It would be a SHOCK to any of my students to be confronted with a real consequence, such as losing a job, for repeatedly breaking the same rule.

This isn't my policy, but the way parents and admin want things to be run now.  And the consequences, as we can see from OP's daughter's situation, are really not good for kids.[/quote]

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