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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not that the truth matters to the delusional people of this forum, but the main schism in Putin's administration is over hardliners' push to use tactical nukes in Ukraine. Highly influential longtime insiders like Karaganov, whom most of you have probably never heard of, are advocating ending the war by making an example of Ukraine so Europeans think twice about continuing their campaign against Russia. Putin is the one counseling restraint because, lawyer that he is, he actually believes in observing the treaties on non-use of nukes and is worried about the precedent that using nukes could set for the ongoing Middle Eastern conflicts that Russia has an interest in. Anyone who cares about Ukrainians had better be rooting for Putin to stay in power because any would-be replacement would be much further to the right than he is. [/quote]

Use of a tactical nuke would be the desperation move showing Russia lost.  What's the value in conquering a devastated irradiated wasteland of your own making?  It doesn't even serve as a "buffer" because NATO weapons have the range to fly straight over Ukraine.  Russia's "hardliners" are clearly idiots who need some sense slapped into them.  I don't know why Putin doesn't just have them served some polonium tea or "fall out of windows" the way he does to journalists, critics, dissidents and other political opponents.[/quote]
You don't seem to understand the difference between tactical nukes and the sort of nukes America used in World War II. Please do some reading and try to catch up. [/quote]

DP. There is no goal that can be attained by the use of tactical nukes. In the era of drones, there is never a major concentration of soldiers and armor anywhere in Ukraine or Russia these days. As for strategic nukes, again, no point for anyone. Leveling Kyiv and murdering 3 million civilians doesn't win the war. It simply makes it a much bigger war. Moscow would be gone within the week. Nukes are not happening in this war. [/quote]

DP: They're not thinking about tactical nukes as a way to win the war.  The war is already lost.  The hardliners want to use tactical nukes as am exit strategy which doubles a warning to Europe.  What they don't realize is that they have catastrophically misread Europe.  Europe is only a threat IF they use tactical nukes.  If they just leave, nobody will bother them [/quote]
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Russians were a lot smarter than this when they cut their losses and left Afghanistan.[/b]  They are definitely stuck in stupid thinking and sunk cost fallacy.  Along with being too invested in their own false narratives and propaganda about the fake "reasons" this war was needed.  Packing up and leaving Ukraine would indeed be their best strategy.  [/quote]
Yep, and then the Americans thought they could do what Russian and the British could not do when they invaded Afghanistan. Different countries, same results. [/quote]

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