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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What about this one?
[url]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/14-year-old-scientist-heman-bekele-on-his-quest-to-fight-skin-cancer-with-soap[/url]
Fair or unfair? Rich or poor?[/quote]

Connected. The mentor is:  Deborah Isabelle she has an MS in Material Science.

It's not like that kid read into latest cancer fighting drugs, then read about skin cancer, then experimented between the how effective soap is to the skin cancer. That requires patients that have skin cancer and willing to have a 13 year old without a HS degree experiment on them.

This is exactly the fake HS research that the thread is complaining about.

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I don't see your logic.  [b]So poor disadvantaged[/b] high school kids can't have mentors? 
How'd you assume that kid didn't read into latest cancer drug development?
Where it says they conducted experiements on patients?
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Where does it say he is "Poor Disadvantaged"? He goes to Woodson and chances are that he not.  He wants to go into FDA trials to test on patients.

He has a wiki if you want to read about it.

[quote][i]Bekele's work has been generally well-received, but some critics point out that he has not followed standard scientific practices, such as publishing in peer-reviewed journals. This makes it difficult to assess the true impact of his research. Available information suggests that the key active ingredient, imiquimod, has been used for years in topical treatments, such as creams, for skin cancer. What appears to be innovative is the use of imiquimod in soap and the incorporation of "lipid nanoparticles." However, there is currently no concrete evidence demonstrating its effectiveness in humans.[/i][/quote]

This is more truth on where HS are on research and their contribution. Not that they are working at a PHD level. The mentors usually help them write it up for the win. Same game for most of the science competitions.

The kids that are publishing on peer-reviewed journals are ones that likely did less. Their published names are likely: Professor, Grad Student 1, Grad Student 2, ... and then the HS kid.

My personal gripe is not the kids are trying to do research - my personal gripe is the "disadvantaged" have real stars that never get  a chance.  And "disadvantaged" is not about race. I know I went to Herndon and watched the st*p*d rich kids brag, pad their resumes, and go onto T25 school. All the while couldn't get through Calc BC without "help" and simultaneously make fun of people that went to Nova CC.  [/quote]

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