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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] Anonymous wrote: Huh? Regardless of the demographics of Patient Zero, viral spread (and subsequent mutations) happens when there is a sufficient vulnerable population - e.g., unvaccinated people. In a perfect world, the vulnerable population would "just" be infants and the immunocompromised, but now you've got millions of unvaccinated school-age children in that camp who can catch and further spread it, plus adults who refuse boosters when it would be medically advised. Those unvaccinated children and vaccine-refusing adults are overwhelmingly MAGA/MAHA. Facts don't care about your feelings. So ignore patient zero and all of their close contacts? That's a really effective strategy.[/quote] You know what is an effective strategy? try to identify and isolate those with measles AND ensure herd immunity through widespread vaccination. Also, yes, greater percentage of MAGA is definitely vaccine (and science) skeptical. But there's also the fringe liberal left who don't vaccinate either. The common denominator among many vaccine skeptics is lack of trust and faith in science/institutions; tendency to privilege intuitive/anecdotal reasoning over statistical reasoning (and being science illiterate); consumption of media that affirms and echoes cultural and political beliefs; a deep desire for certainty over uncertainty, in part as a way to feel more powerful in a challenging and unmoored time; self-concept as being more informed and can see "the truth" where others cant; etc. In other words, social and cultural influences, combined with personality traits and access to media, really can shape all kinds of beliefs. I believe that many people, when faced with the existential crisis of our powerlessness in the world (and esp in contemporaray capitalism) seek clarity and certainty by divding the world into black/white, right/wrong, and by seeking to locate their own feelings of powerlessness and lack of agency in some vague idea of "the elite", "experts," etc. `[/quote] You're still ignoring all the travelers who keep importing the virus and bringing it back to our communities and schools. Why is it so hard to call them out? Every single one of these cases originates from someone traveling while unvaccinated. It's not your poor MAGA from Kentucky, by the way.[/quote] Idiot. No one is "ignoring" them. That is how the viruses are [u]introduced[/u] to our communities. The bigger issue is that the way that viruses [u]spread[/u] through communities via unvaccinated people. One person being sick isn't great for that person but isn't bad for the community if the community has herd immunity. A whole bunch of unvaccinated people spreading the virus is bad for the community. [/quote] If it wasn’t introduced it wouldn’t spread. Your lackadaisical traveler is also not vaccinated but traipsing around the 3rd world bringing formerly eradicated diseases back. But they aren’t a problem?[/quote] They probably got it from MAGA/MAHA losers in Texas. No need to travel abroad - we already have 3rd world country viruses. [/quote]
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