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53 year old man here. Divorced. 3 kids. 
My answers to your questions reflect the views of most men I talk to.

[b]What do you actually want? Like in life, in relationships, all of[/b]
Peace. That is the entire answer. That is it. Every single man over the age of 25 wants peace. Not excitement. Not drama. Not somebody to challenge him. Not somebody to keep him on his toes. Peace. 
 
[b]How can women make things better for you?[/b]
Women can make things better by accepting men as they are, rather than attempting to fix them. Stop trying to improve him. Stop trying to make him a better man. The entire rest of the world is already doing that. His boss. His competitors. The bill collector. Every single person he meets every single day is telling him he is not good enough. If you are the woman in his life your only job is to be the one person that thinks he is good enough right now. That is it. That is the thing no other human being on earth can give him.

[b]What makes you feel respected or valued?[/b]
Respect is not telling me you love me. Respect is not cooking me dinner. Respect is when you disagree with me, but you never embarrass me in front of other people. Respect is when another man comes at me, you do not stand there neutral. Respect is when you do not run and tell every single one of your girlfriends and your mom every single complaint you have about me.

Love is optional. Respect is mandatory. A man will leave a woman that loves him but does not respect him 100 times out of 100. He will stay with a woman that respects him and does not love him long before the reverse.

[b]What do you want from the woman you’re with?[/b]
Loyalty. Not fidelity. Loyalty. Fidelity is the smallest part of loyalty. Loyalty means you are on my team. First. Before everybody else. Before your friends. Before your family. Before your feelings.

[b]What kind of woman do you actually want to date?[/b]
The number one most attractive trait a woman can have is low maintenance. Not low maintenance financially. Low maintenance emotionally.
A man that has his stuff together does not care about your degree. He does not care about your job. He does not care about your 6 figure salary. He does not care how many countries you have been to. What he cares about is: Are you pleasant to be around. Can I bring you around my people and not be embarrassed. Can I go to sleep and know you are not going to wake me up at 3am to have an argument about something that happened 3 years ago. That is it.

[b]Do you think men are devalued right now?[/b]
Absolutely. Undeniably. Men have always been disposable. That is not new. For 100 thousand years men were the ones that went to fight the tiger. We were the ones that went to war. What is new is that now men are disposable and unappreciated. Before, if you went and fought the tiger, if you worked 60 hours a week, society would at least say thank you. Now you do all that exact same stuff, and you are told you are the problem. You are told you are privileged. You are told you are not doing enough.

There is no reward. There is no respect. There is no gratitude. And then everybody acts surprised that men are checking out. That men don't want to get married anymore. That men are going their own way. Why would they? What is in it for him?

Now you can be mad. You can go call me a misogynist. But not a single one of you will say I lied.[/quote]

I don't agree with everything you said, but I have heard it before from men in my circle. [/quote]

In my circle, middle aged men working 60 hours/wk are in charge.  Far from being constantly told that they aren’t good enough, they are frequently told that they are better than they are.

I think this guy sounds like a narcissist.  He doesn’t care about his wife’s (or any woman’s?) job and her six figure salary AT ALL, but he wants everyone to act like his job is equivalent to fighting a TIGER?  Really?

Yeah.  I think you sound like a misogynist and a nightmare to the women in your office.  I can’t imagine being a young woman telling you that I need to take off for a maternity leave.  I mean, here you are out there fighting tigers and being constantly criticized and getting no gratitude from society, and some woman is asking you for time off!?![/quote]
Spot on. White men love nothing more than complaining about every other group playing victim but they have the market cornered. Most delusional people ever. [/quote]

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