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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We have about 15 applying to Penn this year.  DC didn't get in with top gpa and score.  Among the five who are accepted, there is one unhooked kid whose gpa is at the lower end of the range, but I guess Penn likes her narrative better.  No national award.  Scattergram shows acceptance from 3.7 to 4.0.[/quote]

My kids school (not in DC) has 8 kids going to Penn this year, four are URM (none had top gpa). One has a well known spike but is not in top 20% of class. Only two of the 8 kids are in top 10%. So for Penn its not GPA or rigor that matters the most. Only two of the kids had top rigor. [/quote]

How do people speak so confidently about other people's children on this forum? Are you their college counselor? If so, shame on you for divulging their personal info. If not, shame on you for speculating about things you do not know.[/quote]

DP here.  What are you talking about?  How on earth is any of this "personal info"?  I don't think you can narrow down a single kid or school this parent is talking about as there's zero identifying information here.

Stop shaming people you do not know if you want to encourage people to share helpful information on an anonymous forum!

In any case, my kids know a ton about their classmates.  Two got into Penn and neither are in the top rigor classes or even in the top 20% of the class academically.  Both are athletic recruits.  In previous years, legacy kids who are also not at the top of the class got into Penn due to legacy plus donor parents.  At the Ivy plus level, there are tons of kids who qualify academically, so you really need a hook (URM, FGLI, athletic recruit, legacy, etc.) or you need to be extremely lucky.[/quote]

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