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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Caveat: please put rankings and prestige aside, so forget about Ivy label for this thread. Just which do YOU think seems best based on personal experience, your research, colleagues you work with, anecdotal grad school and career outcomes, etc. [/quote]

Penn, no question. 
We have family and close friends currently at all four, two of them we have two different family members attending. 
Duke is the least serious academically of the four and not a great fit for the true academics. 
Chicago used to be that place, [b]but they are watereed down now because they do not get many top-top kids anymore[/b]. It is a great school but it lost its academic-power house edge about 10 yrs ago. 
Northwestern has a super intellectual feel but unfortunately cutthroat compared to the others, and a significant negative social life. 
All four are preprofessional, as are other T10/ivy, with Northwestern the worst of the four. Penn and Chicago are the least pre-professional and the most collaborative of the four. 
Penn faculty connections and outcomes are the best of the four by a lot, as which makes getting internships, grad school, on campus research the best of the four. Chicago is second for this, of these four. 
Penn has the best on campus recruiting by top companies, of the four, not sure who is second but the other three are below Penn.[/quote]

Agree with everything except this. This is not a Chicago specific issue: most creme de la creme kids go to HYPSM, Wharton, or chase the money at a flagship. The decline in deflation at Chicago is well understood, but the rigor is real. But to target Chicago specifically and say that top kids don’t go there anymore is disingenuous.[/quote]

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