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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If from a decently resourced public school, AP Calc BC by sophomore year is recommended.  Many of the replies are from private school parents who are ignorant of the gate-keeping of public school students to Ivies.  A public school student at a middle or upper-middle class high school has to be 10X the scholar a private school student has to be.

The majority of Princeton's non-hooked students took math above Calculus BC. At MIT, more than 50% of unhooked public school students had math higher than BC.  [/quote]

I am fairly sure that basically zero kids at Stuy, Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech, etc. do calc as sophomores, and I don't think many even do it as a junior. And they do fine with college acceptances and once they get to college.

Colleges want kids who do the best with what is offered. So the schools don't need to offer these things to keep up with each other. Parents are being bamboozled. But the damage is done and it isn't being changed. So now you are forced to do it. Which is dumb.[/quote]

[b]Wrong.  Dozens take it each year.  So your "fairly sure" basically meant you were guessing.[/b][/quote]

Not sure why you are so angry about this. Especially since you are wrong. My kid was accepted to one of these schools and almost attended (chose to go to private). I have toured all three and know many kids at all three. There are some who do it as a junior. But not a huge number. And they are not necessarily the students with the best college outcomes.

But you sit in your exurban DMV house with the minivan in the driveway and tell me how NYC schools work.[/quote]

Agree with you PP.  That previous poster is most certainly NOT from NYC.  NYS Regents aren't allowed until 8th grade; hence, it's there are zero students taking Calc sophomore year if they're in a NYC public school.  That's the long and short of it.  But yeah tons of DMV (or god only knows from where) folks want to opine how NYC magnet public schools work.  [/quote]

NP: Exactly - I guess the only possible exception is if a kid went to a Speyer for K-8 or one of the few other schools where they push the kids ahead, so they enter the SHSAT school ahead. Otherwise, it is almost impossible. I know some NYC middle schools are letting kids take Geometry early (since it can be done in tandem with Algebra) but that still doesn't get you to Calc in 10th. And the kids from the SHSAT schools do incredibly well with college, math/science research, and any other metric.

Meanwhile the DMV crowd thinks they are all that and their kids are smarter than NYC SHSAT kids because they take math a year or two earlier. They live in a fantasy land and a bubble. I'm sure their kids are plenty bright but their attitude is weird.[/quote]

No, but our kids who take something like AP Calc BC, AP Phys Mechanics, AP Chem sophomore year and gets 5's on the exams demonstrates the raw intellectual horsepower that colleges love.  Don't denigrate students because they are good students.  It makes you look petty.[/quote]

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