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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The general concept of pooling to create peer groups in sufficient numbers as well as more efficiently providing resources like teachers with appropriate credentials isn’t a terrible one. The devil is in the details as usual. The move to local level IV as others have said has its own set of problems and for some-to-many students will lead to reduced opportunities/rigor if centers are phased out. Just my two cents.[/quote]

I really don't think that's true if they group the kids correctly...[/quote]

There's a reason no association for gifted kids is a fan of clustering. None. It doesn't work.[/quote]

But aap doesn't equal gifted....right?[/quote]

Fair, but the gifted kids are mixed in with the rest of AAP (mom of 2 non-gifted AAP kids and 1 borderline/possibly gifted AAP kid, but no "wow she's a genius" types)[/quote]

Also in aap as overheard on the playground, kids who struggled in 1st and 2nd grade but are in and the parents "don't care what kind of supports they need because they are in and can't get kicked out" [/quote]

Kid #1 didn't get into AAP.  Pushed into advanced math, but had no above grade level reading group for a few years, meaning they were alone and ignored by the teacher.   Meanwhile, kid #2 gets into AAP and gets little teacher interaction for language arts, because the teacher is too busy with the group that is below grade level and another group at grade level (in AAP! - the teacher expressed this at the conference).  Make it make sense.    [/quote]

So basically the above grade level kids get split into two groups....the group waiting on the below grade level kids in full time aap, and the kids waiting on the below grade level kids in general ed.
If the purpose is to group the above grade level kids together it hasn't worked.

Which begs the question, who exactly are the full time services for?  It's pretty established that it's not a gifted program.  For an above grade level, high performing, high achieving child it's still a toss up.  
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This misrepresents things. The vast majority are average and get into these programs through appeals and private diagnoses. Further, these programs seem to be more about segregating by HHI. [/quote]
“Vast majority” is a stretch. Appeals have a low success rate from my observation. You can tell who got in first round from AAP orientation. Hardly anyone not there shows up the first day of school. Most kids in AAP do not have a preexisting diagnosis. Although some kids do end up getting diagnosed after starting AAP.[/quote]

Not all parents go to AAP orientation either, and so the number of kids getting in on appeal would be even less.[/quote]

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