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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Not sure why merit and diversity are mutually exclusive. [/b]They can coexist and they have for a real long time now. What say you in these cases OP? Do you not hire a unicorn so you can form the biggest and the best good ol’ boys club known to man?[/quote]

Bingo.

OP is a racist, sexist POS. 
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Do you lack logical reasoning?  Of course they are not mutually exclusive. But if you are suggesting there is complete overlap between the two, then there is no need to hire on the basis of BOTH merit AND diversity. Hiring on the basis of merit should be enough.  If there is not perfect overlap between the two (ie the real world), and you recruit under both banners, then by definition you will hire some people [b]without merit[/b].  If you disagree with that premise (ie you think there is no world where recruiting for diversity results in non-merit hires), then you should logically be fine with hiring solely on merit. [/quote]

As if it’s binary.  :roll: 
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I’m not the PP but I think you are engaging in a conversation where you don’t want to consider what the other person is actually saying.

There is no way that I would want to be hired on an engineering team for any reason other than 100% merit. As a woman who is also Latina, I don’t want that to even be a question. I work with other engineers who are also female/latina/black/insert anything here. They are great. The driving force must be merit. I don’t think the existence of their birth counts as merit.

This is just me and my own preferences for my own hiring. Others can want something different for themselves.[/quote]

The PP was positing it as a binary choice, whereas in reality it’s much more complex.

“Merit” isn’t rated as all or nothing. And there are many different aspects of “merit”. Some candidates fit certain aspects of a position better than others.

Plus, there are many other considerations outside of DEI and “merit” that go into a hiring decision. 
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