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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How good is Brown when it comes to post grad opportunities compared to the other Ivys? DD is deciding between Brown or Rice.[/quote]

Both a great schools but Rice is regional/local in a way that Brown is not.  Look at percent of students from Texas and also focus on Texas related industries, like oil and gas.   [/quote]

Rice is not local!?! Not even regional.[/quote]

Depending on which source you use 35%-49% of the students at Rice are from Texas. That is what makes it regional,  its network is highly concentrated by region and industry due to this.  In contrast at Brown, all of the New England states combined, MA, CT, RI, NH, ME, VT on the high side add up to 23%.   [/quote]

36 percent of students at Stanford are from California. Does that make it a regional school? Texas and California are huge states with tons of stellar students. You can't compare some school in Rhode Island or New Hampshire with Stanford or Rice on those terms. Brown and Dartmouth and the other Ivies are perfectly good schools. But they are in tiny states with small pools of top students. There are more than 70 million people in Texas and California alone. [/quote]

That 70 is not evenly split, California is 39m to Texas' 31m, Rice is more heavily weighted to local applicants than Stanford.  Yet, having said that Stanford is more regional than its peers.  [/quote]

I think you both are missing how important geography plays in college decisions.

[b]89% of kids don't travel more than 500 miles for college.[/b]  If you are in CA and want a top 20 school, you have UCB, Stanford and UCLA.  If you are in TX you have Rice, and then UT Austin is in the hunt.  The neighboring states to CA and TX have relatively small populations, so CA and TX will be the dominant population centers.

If you live in say DC, well you have basically 15 top 20 schools within this radius.[/quote]

[b]While that is true it is not applicable to the applicants applying/truly competitive for the Ivy+ privates. [/b] And the public's are different, depending on the State they are limited to taking only a small percentage from OOS or mandated to take some percent of the top HS grads from their states.  Look at this data from Rice on where it alumni live, of the 70k living alumni 21k+ live in Metro Houston, another 33k+ live in the rest of Texas, a mere 10k+ live in the rest of the US and 3k+ live abroad.  https://ideas.rice.edu/report/geographic-distribution-summary/  
That screams regional [/quote]In many parts of the country, even very top students attend in-state schools. A fun exercise is to look up the top general enrollment high school in some flyover state and find their college Instagram page. You will see that nearly all kids are headed to the state flagship or an even weaker regional school.

Ivies are basically northeastern regional schools with an astonishingly good marketing campaign. And schools like Chicago and WashU are piggybacking on that marketing campaign in an effort to attract coastal money. [/quote]

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