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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is that guiding partly because they have a broader view of the class as a whole so they can be realistic with each student?  Is there a way to say that the student is welcome to apply but within the HS there are a lot of kids applying to the same place and based on this student’s profile they may want to reconsider?  [/quote]

Exactly. It's actually not a big conspiracy to only support the wealthiest kids. I've had 3 kids go through this at a top private. 
College guidance knows the whole picture and knows that if your unhooked kid is applying at the same time as 2 legacy kids with strong grades then your kid's chance of admission is very slim. They don't want to see your kid waste their ED and then be disgruntled later on when they only have safety options.  I have seen this happen time and time again. Kids waste their ED on a moon shot and then fall way down. But parents at these schools don't like this. Frankly they are used to being to get their way in life. [/quote]

I don’t think legacy gives much boost nowadays.  They got rejected or deferred all the time.  Donors? Yes.  School counselor should not give preferential support to legacy.[/quote]

At top private schools it's often multi-generational legacies who have served on parent committees, given money for decades, etc.  It's not your generic legacies. It's people who have lived and breathed the Ivy in their professional lives and family lineage.  
The "regular" legacy kids don't do as well. 
Even legacy has it's hierarchy. 
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No.  Unless the donation over the decades is substantial, not going to move the needle much.  Serving on parent committee helps. But this is very different from being on the board.  [/quote]

You're incorrect. These kids get in like clockwork from our school every year.  [/quote]

Sure, Jane.[/quote]

I don't know why you are arguing this.  If you have a kid at a private and there are 5 hooked Princeton applicants BY ALL MEANS, have your kid apply.  I didn't have a hooked kid so mine didn't when the field was crowded like this.  Most kids wouldn't.  The kids figure it out themselves.  They self-sort to the open spots.

If that isn't your thing, cool.  Shoot your shot.  Take on the 4th generation legacies with the top stats and the recruited athletes.  Maybe they'll bump the kid off the roster to take your unhooked kid into a non-roster spot. Those of us who have kids at these private schools are just saying that it doesn't generally work out.

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It’s not true.  I know many multi-generation (if that’s a thing) legacy turned down at ivies.  Without significant donation, it doesn’t do magic.  Sorry.

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Sometimes it’s the multiple institutional priorities at work at least at our private. So the multigenerational or multi-member legacy, the private feeder school, the undersubscribed major, and talent or uncommon ability in something desirable at the school/filling new “community” priority.

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Look at that visual that someone posted from the Hoffman counselor guy. That visual shows all of the initials for the hooks. A kid like this would probably have three initials.
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The feeder private school wouldn’t be listed - but when the numbers shake out, they also have more admits than make statistical sense. Ever see that Harvard visual of the feeder schools? It’s shocking.

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