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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Kate and CBK weren’t really alike. Kate pursued William pretty steadfastly. CBK played it a lot cooler whether it was authentic or strategic.

Also think JFK jr. was older and more ready to commit than William was. Different dynamics… but I was a kid when JFK jr passed away, so this is just my impression based on what I’ve read after the fact. [/quote]

Me again, thinking more about it, my analysis is that JFK jr was much more in love or besotted with Carolyn than William has ever been with Kate. With William you get the sense that he is bored or always feels he could have found a better match in some way. And I don’t sadly jfk jr and CBK passed away before their marriage was telling in any very long term kind of way.

But long story short I think jfk jr loved CBK more than she loved him and I think Kate loves/needs William more than he thinks he loves or needs her. William is more complicated because he has to stay married for image sake. And I’m sure he resents that and kind of projects it onto Kate. But what do I know - hopefully they’re happy. [/quote]

I disagree.

I think William was attracted to Kate, her loving family, and the fact that she demonstrated she was in it for the long haul. I suspect he desperately wanted a wife who would provide a loving home for him and his children as well as someone strong enough to add value rather than require hand-holding. They seem to be a very good match. I really don’t understand all the dcum speculation about him not loving her. They seem really committed.

JFK Jr seemed to be really immature, self-centered, and needy. While he was obviously spoiled and easily bored by women who threw themselves at him, he seemed to be interested in the chase CBK laid out for him by simply following The Rules that were popular in the 90s. Plus, the timing worked in her favor: he was reeling from the death of his bossy pants mother and he probably latched onto CBK more quickly than he might have under different circumstances.

I think JFK Jr was attracted to her personality/behavior—perhaps the challenge and Chase she presented. While she wasn’t ugly, she really wasn’t gorgeous. He was way hotter than she was. Look at her nose and odd facial features. They were known to have passionate fights in public, and he probably got off on that.

Anyway, there’s no way the JFK Jr marriage would have lasted. She probably would have been the one to leave. He probably wanted a wife who would give him kids and enjoy being a mother, and she didn’t seem mature enough for that. She seemed self-centered just like him. [/quote]
DP. This honestly is a very American lens to put over William/Kate dynamic. The people in the royal family truly believe that they are better than people that are not a part of the aristocracy. That’s why you end up with someone like Prince Andrew, who can get arrested in claim, but I’m the son of the queen or you have someone like Charles who would think nothing of basically marrying a 19-year-old that he did not love to be his broodmare. The joke about Williams’s parents was that Diana’s blood was even bluer than his father’s. William spent his whole youth dating and attempting to walk down someone from the social class that he was raised in and ultimately had no takers. So he married someone outside of his class at 30.  He might have done that from a place of love even though they broke up multiple times for him to pursue other women but he almost certainly views her as needing to be grateful for tha choice. So from our perspective as Americans, we see a family that was financially comfortable and seemingly stable and a woman that is much better looking than her partner tend to view everything through that. But I guess it really comes down to if you think that someone can be raised to be a good spouse in the sort of system where their father and grandfather and great grandfather before them have cheated, and where their position in life and importance in the family is based on birth order. If you look at all of the divorces amongst the queen’s children, it does not seem that it’s possible, but who knows.

Agee that jfk and cbk would not have lasted. I think CBK would really have struggled with the power imbalance that would have resulted from her being pregnant/a mom. [/quote]

Cheating is not at all limited to royalty.  A quick perusal of DCUM relationship forum would show as much.  People cheat across the entire SES range.

At this point, I think that William definitely needs Kate more than she needs him.  The BRF is in a deep crisis and has a dire shortage of positive role models.  Kate brings stability, loyalty, motherhood and good looks all wrapped up and poised to be Queen.  People like her.  If William let this marriage break down, it would doom the monarchy. I think they are both perfectly aware of that.  The consequences of divorce would be much more dire for William and BRF than for Kate. [/quote]

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