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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Kate and CBK weren’t really alike. Kate pursued William pretty steadfastly. CBK played it a lot cooler whether it was authentic or strategic. Also think JFK jr. was older and more ready to commit than William was. Different dynamics… but I was a kid when JFK jr passed away, so this is just my impression based on what I’ve read after the fact. [/quote] Me again, thinking more about it, my analysis is that JFK jr was much more in love or besotted with Carolyn than William has ever been with Kate. With William you get the sense that he is bored or always feels he could have found a better match in some way. And I don’t sadly jfk jr and CBK passed away before their marriage was telling in any very long term kind of way. But long story short I think jfk jr loved CBK more than she loved him and I think Kate loves/needs William more than he thinks he loves or needs her. William is more complicated because he has to stay married for image sake. And I’m sure he resents that and kind of projects it onto Kate. But what do I know - hopefully they’re happy. [/quote] I disagree. I think William was attracted to Kate, her loving family, and the fact that she demonstrated she was in it for the long haul. I suspect he desperately wanted a wife who would provide a loving home for him and his children as well as someone strong enough to add value rather than require hand-holding. They seem to be a very good match. I really don’t understand all the dcum speculation about him not loving her. They seem really committed. JFK Jr seemed to be really immature, self-centered, and needy. While he was obviously spoiled and easily bored by women who threw themselves at him, he seemed to be interested in the chase CBK laid out for him by simply following The Rules that were popular in the 90s. Plus, the timing worked in her favor: he was reeling from the death of his bossy pants mother and he probably latched onto CBK more quickly than he might have under different circumstances. I think JFK Jr was attracted to her personality/behavior—perhaps the challenge and Chase she presented. While she wasn’t ugly, she really wasn’t gorgeous. He was way hotter than she was. Look at her nose and odd facial features. They were known to have passionate fights in public, and he probably got off on that. Anyway, there’s no way the JFK Jr marriage would have lasted. She probably would have been the one to leave. He probably wanted a wife who would give him kids and enjoy being a mother, and she didn’t seem mature enough for that. She seemed self-centered just like him. [/quote] JFK jr and CBK might not have lasted had they lived, but he seemed passionate about her. William took ten years to marry Kate. They’ve also been plagued by a lot of rumors related to infidelity, living separately etc. he was photographed with other women in the Swiss alps while kate was pregnant with Louis. [/quote] I think it’s reasonable that he didn’t rush into marriage given the catastrophe of a marriage his parents had. And unless the photos of him with other women were objectively romantic, I think it’s reasonable that he might have been off skiing with a group of friends while she relaxed at home. While some boys of cheating fathers follow in their footsteps, some go in the other direction given their firsthand experience of coming from a broken home. I bet William and Harry are both extra-committed to making it work with their wives…if only for the sake of their kids. William’s dad won’t live forever. His in-laws are essentially the surrogate family and loving grandparents for his kids. I doubt he wants to blow that up. [/quote] William is absolutely not going to blow it up and neither is kate. They are both committed to staying in the marriage but who knows what that means for them. They are not like us. I don’t know about you, but I would not be pleased at all to see pictures of my husband drunkenly grinding with other women on a ski trip while I was home pregnant. I don’t particularly like Meghan (I actually like Kate a lot better) [b]but I 100% believe Harry is a more traditional, loyal and family oriented spouse than William[/b]. Meghan has the power in their marriage (because Harry needs someone to play that role) and William has the power in his. Idk - maybe William deeply loves Kate. I used to think so. I just am not as convinced anymore. They’re also just regular people at the end of the day and most marriages are pretty boring 15 years in. Add to that the opportunities William has to step out, and the financial means to do anything he wants or have as many residences as they want. [/quote] Based on what? He's estranged from him family and the vast majority of his lifelong friends, which he shared in his book. He didn't do anything to help Meghan adjust to a new country, much less royal life. He left the country on some trip days after Archie was born. He doesn't seem particularly loyal, traditional, or family focused. He seems impulsive, entitled, and immature. I feel sorry for Meghan. I think she thought she was marrying someone else. [/quote] I agree with all of those things about Harry. But I also think Meghan wears the pants in the relationship and Harry needs that. I think he made a point that he was leaving the BRF for Meghan and their family. So, they’re all he has. I also think he wants to have a successful happy family in a way that would feel like a big f-you to his father and brother. Obviously all speculation. I don’t feel bad for Meghan. She seems really difficult and holier than thou - and it’s like she wants to come off that way but she also wants to pretend to be a good, down to earth person and instead she just comes off as completely inauthentic. William just usually strikes me as unhappy. I find it hard to believe that all of the rumors of his infertility are untrue. Anyway this thread was about CBK. She “bagged” a Kennedy being beautiful, allegedly having a personality and being relatively elusive. JFK jr backpacked through India and he was searching for meaning and connections outside the very strange bubble he lived in. I’m guessing her not coming from his world was part of the attraction, another part of it was his having to pursue her. [/quote] I think to be fair Meghan kind of has to wear the pants in that couple. Prince Harry never really had to manage anything, it was all taken care of, well except for his mental wellbeing. Materially he was spoiled but a disaster on the inside with that royal family. [/quote]
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