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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ah, so that particular one was defective, or maybe that brand isn't so good. That's what research is for. After all, you get what you pay for. There are also all sorts of other safes that can keep kids out. And BTW? you can keep a magazine or clip loaded in one place and your gun somewhere else and have it loaded and ready to go in under 15 seconds. I don't know many intruders who move at warp-speed or have invisibility cloaks. In most situations, people have time to get their weapons. This has been shown time and again.[/quote]

Yes.  But when I ask if your house is safe for kids, and you give me that "ever heard of a biometric safe?" then I have to ask you whether it is a good one, whether you have bolted it down, whether your kids know where the backup key is, whether ALL of the guns are in there, whether you do routine inspections, whether you carry and if so where is the gun when you are out of the house, how do you secure your gun in the car.  Do you ever forget to secure your weapon when you get home and shower.  Do you have a backup weapon in a second location that is just hidden, not secured.  it goes on and on.

My in-laws are a perfect example.  Great gun safe.  But the guns aren't always in there.  FIL knows where they are, but MIL doesn't.  When I ask she says "I'm sure they are locked up".  Then I go ask him when he gets home and we go around and put everything back in the safe before the grandkids find them.  They aren't dumb people.  They aren't used to having kids around.

Yes, it can all be done well.  But the fact is that more than half don't even get the basics right, and most of the rest make mistakes.

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