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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't doubt it. The wealth of out-of-state kids in the first year class is absurd. My child went to a 55k private so is no stranger to being around money but has never seen wealth like there is at UVA among many OOS kids. They had a professor comment on it, unprovoked during office hours because the professor feels like it's really increased in recent years. [/quote] UVA goes for a relatively low percentage of in state, compared to most others (UNC requires 85% in state?). Isn’t that against the mission of large public state universities? [/quote] Compared to who? UVA is about 1/3 out of state Michigan is about 50/50 Berkeley and UCLA are about 15-20% out of state UNC is about 18% out of state [/quote] 1/3rd out of state is a very large contingent, larger than most of the examples you are citing.[/quote] [b]Virginia ranks relatively low in funding higher education, so out of state enrollment is needed from a funding perspective. North Carolina, for instance, provides significantly higher funding for higher education.[/quote][/b] This, UVA receives less than 6% of its budget from the Commonwealth. Most publics are at 100%[/quote] Above is true. However, the percentage of budget that comes from the Commonwealth is a bit higher than 6% if one separates out the (large) UVA Health System and only considers the academic budget. [/quote] It’s actually not true at all for a flagship. First, your point on the UVA budget is right but it’s not “a bit higher” than 6%. It’s almost 12%. And you [i]should[/i] separate out the medical center, because UVA does as well in its budgeting and the medical center is self funded. The state provides almost 12% of the academic division (ie, the university) revenues, it does not fund the medical center. See here: https://uvafinance.virginia.edu/sites/uvafinance/files/2024-08/Pages%20from%20June%2024%20Finance%20Committee%20Slides%20Final.pdf [b]Now, is that 12% vs 100% at other large publics?[/b] Apples to apples comparisons are tough because everyone budgets differently, but no, it’s not even close. For example, UNC was mentioned. Even if you strip out revenue from patients (because they combine the hospital and academic parts) to make it more like UVA, state appropriations are about 18% of total revenues. At Michigan it is about 7%. And so on. [/quote] No large state publics are anywhere close to 100% funded by state general fund appropriations. States typically don't fund the majority of sponsored research, auxiliary enterprises (housing and dining), intercollegiate athletics, hospital operations, etc. However, if you take away state funding, even at UVA, in-state tuition and fees would have to rise to near private school levels to compensate for the revenue loss. [/quote] It looks like Virginia kicks in ~$6k/year. The UVA tuition is about $40K less than private[/quote]
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