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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]China is now the world leader in STEM:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/15/us/harvard-global-ranking-chinese-universities-trump-cuts.html

So much winning.  America is in terminal decline.   I guess it is time for our best and brightest to start considering studying abroad in China.  They are taking over all rankings for best universities and research in the world.

But thank god ICE is asking for citizens' papers, we are starting multiple new wars, and the country has a whakcy brain worm leader pushing junk like sunshine and chelation therapy to treat autism.

[b]USA, land of the dumbasses.[/b] [/quote]

Yeah, posts like this amaze me.  Harvard was never a STEM powerhouse.  It's a law/business school.

IMO the fact that Harvard is so weak at STEM is a major factor in why they demand so many Visas.

You can't fix a broken education pipeline by perpetually importing already trained people from other countries.

I mean at some point you have to look at all these H-1B professors and teachers from other countries and say they are failing to teach us.
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Harvard University has one of the highest numbers of Nobel Prize-affiliated individuals in the world[/size], with over 120 laureates associated with the institution as alumni, faculty, or researchers. [/color]

Recent Harvard-Affiliated Nobel Laureates 
Gary Ruvkun (2024, Medicine): Discovered microRNA.
Victor Ambros (2024, Medicine): Discovered microRNA (formerly at Harvard).
Claudia Goldin (2023, Economics): Advanced understanding of women's labor market outcomes.
Carolyn Bertozzi (2022, Chemistry): Developed click chemistry.
William Kaelin Jr. (2019, Medicine): Discovered how cells sense oxygen.
Michael Kremer (2019, Economics): Researched poverty alleviation.
George P. Smith (2018, Chemistry): Developed phage display.
Oliver Hart (2016, Economics): Researched contract theory.
Martin Karplus (2013, Chemistry): Developed multiscale models for complex chemical systems.
Alvin E. Roth (2012, Economics): Researched market design. 
Key Areas of Distinction
Medicine/Physiology: Numerous laureates from Harvard Medical School, including Jack Szostak (2009) and Linda Buck (2004).
Economics: A high concentration of laureates, including Amartya Sen (1998).
Physics/Chemistry: Multiple winners, such as Roy Glauber (2005, Physics). [/quote]

On posters like this, “affiliated” is a very broad, marketing-friendly term — it does not mean all of these people were long-term Harvard professors or that they did their Nobel-winning work there.

Universities usually count anyone who fits any of these at any point in their life:

✅ What “Harvard-affiliated” typically includes

1. Alumni

Undergraduate degree (AB/BA)

Graduate degree (PhD, MD, MBA, etc.)

Even if:

Their Nobel work happened decades later at a totally different institution

2. Faculty (past or present)
This can include:

Tenured professors

Tenure-track

Visiting professors

Short-term appointments

Sometimes even:

A single year visiting position gets counted

3. Researchers
Such as:

Postdocs

Lab researchers

Research fellows

Often very temporary roles.

4. “Formerly at Harvard”
This is the loosest category — like your example:

Victor Ambros (formerly at Harvard)

That could mean:

Postdoc years ago

Early faculty job

Visiting role

Not necessarily when the Nobel work occurred.

🌍 About nationality / immigration

They don’t restrict it to Americans.

If someone:

Studied at Harvard as an international student

Worked there before or after immigrating

They still count fully as “Harvard-affiliated.”

So yes — many laureates later moved to the US or passed through Harvard briefly.

📊 Why the numbers get so high (120+)

Because Harvard is counting across:

✔ undergrad + grad
✔ long-term + short-term
✔ before Nobel + after Nobel
✔ Americans + internationals

Some universities only count faculty when the work was done there.
Harvard uses the widest possible definition.

🧠 A more honest way to interpret the poster

When you see:

“Harvard has X Nobel-affiliated individuals”

It really means:

“These people passed through Harvard at some point in their careers.”

NOT:

• They were all professors
• They did Nobel work there
• They were tenured
• Harvard “produced” the discovery

⚖️ If you want a tighter meaning (academically serious stats)

There are usually three real categories scholars care about:

Category	Meaning
Alumni laureates	Got a degree there
Faculty at time of prize-winning work	strongest connection
Loose affiliation	marketing bucket

Posters usually mix all three.

🎯 In short

“Affiliated” = anyone who studied, worked, or briefly held a position there — at any time.

It can mean:

undergrad

postdoc

tenured professor

visiting scholar

immigrant scientist who passed through

All counted equally.[/quote]

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