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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is Duke a rich kids school? Are there any middle class kids?[/quote]

The data is 4 years old but Duke has fewer pell grant and highly aided than ivies and also has a larger percentage of the class in the top 2% than the ivies. Ivies have been purposely increasing the % on aid to 55% and above since 2021. Yale just announced what Harvard, Penn and Princeton(and MIT) already have: free tuition for families with income under 200k. The other ivies, similar to Duke, do not have the funds to get to that point yet.   These same schools (HYPPM) also give the best aid to families between 150 and 250k, sometimes some aid offered up to 300k. 
Funded summer programs, fellowships/research $ for undergrads is also best at these schools.

The trick is to get into one of them.
For anyone who is not full pay, Penn is the move here. Even for those who are, the undergrad opportunities are more robust at Penn. [/quote]

Duke got railroaded on that poll about pell grants and highly aided and then the NYT decided to make an example of Duke. The difference between Duke and most of the other Ivies wasn't statistically significant, and they cherry picked a year.

In response, Duke created programs to make it super cheap for kids from the Carolinas to go there. Unlike Ivies, they didn't feel the need to turn it into a total PR stunt (I got a NYT alert blasted on my phone earlier this week about Yale - really? That merits an urgent news alert?).

All of these schools are definitely squeezing the middle class. Rich kids to pay the bills and poor kids to feel good about themselves. But any analysis differentiating them is bogus - they are all basically the same.[/quote]

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