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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We met some of the DCI students through the Capitol City Robotics program last year (a terrific program, btw!). My son is in elementary school and most of the high schools counselors for the program were from DCI and were truly an impressive bunch. The head of capitol city robotics has spoken very highly of DCI's program.

[b]DCI appears to have threaded a terrific needle by having very advanced programming for some kids while still providing strong support for kids who need it.[/quote][/b]

How are you measuring this? [/quote]

NP.  This was discussed on another thread.  DCI uses standardized test scores as one of the criteria for class placement in addition to grades and teacher’s recommendations so kids 3 or 4 levels apart are not in the same class.  In addition, lowest bottom kids get extra support classes everyday instead of an elective.

If you look at SAT averages, DCI is around 1200 which is higher than Banneker which is a test in school and similar to Latin.  Yet DCI has significantly more at risk, significantly more SPED, and significantly more ELL than Latin.  This tells you that they are doing well with kids on both ends of the spectrum, high and low. 
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Banneker and DCI have around the same average SAT score, which is about 1150-1160.

Banneker has significantly higher proficiency levels in English and math than both DCI and Latin, and Latin is much stronger in English than DCI (not surprisingly, since  some of DCI's classes are taught in a foreign language).

CAPE 4+

Banneker

Math (geometry): 53.2
English II: 90.3

Latin

Math (geometry): 14.1
English II: 74.7

DCI

Math (geometry): <1% [Algebra I: 33.2]
English II: 51.1

Overall, looking at how many kids are grade-level and above in English and math, [b]DCI is well below both Banneker and Latin[/b].
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High school CAPE scores have been discussed so many times on here. They  are not accurate especially when it comes to math.  If a school has a very advance math track, many kids are not taking CAPE at all so the numbers are very misleading.  Only the bottom kids in math are left taking CAPE.

So DCI offers AP Cal in 10th grade as a class.  I don’t think Banneker or Latin offers that advance of a math track, In addition, the school has multiple classes of the level below that which would get you to AP Cal in 11th.  So there are some kids in 10th, lots of kids in 11th, and even more kids in 12th. not taking CAPE at all.  Also IB math is integrated.  It is not compartmentalized like traditional schools.  So they might cover Algebra some topics one year but not all and then rest next year.  It just is not a similar comparison.  As to ELA, yes kids are getting less time in ELA but at the benefit of being proficient in another language.  So how do you account for this added benefit?

Assessing high schools, you should look at SAT scores and AP scores, not CAPE at all.  Those are the parameters if your college bound kid is ready for the next higher level playing field of college.  What this shows is that the kids heading to college at DCI are just as prepared as Banneker and Latin in math and ELA and with the benefit of knowing another languages.

Above is the reason why the scores look worst for DCI and yet they come out just as similar with SAT.  It’s not like overnight these kids got a lot smarter or caught up.  How do you account for such big discrepancies and yet SAT scores are similar?  It is because how CAPE is measured is not accurate or representative of the whole student body at the high school level.

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It wouldn’t take a lot of selection bias for the distance in the DCI SAT score relative to Banneker to diverge from the relative distance between CAPE scores at the two schools[/quote]

What does this word salad mean?  What is your point?[/quote]

Given the school size, a few low performing kids opting out of SAT’s at DCI would decrease the gap between DCI and Banneker. Conversely, those kids taking the CAPE (and high performing kids opting out) would increase the gap. [/quote]

But all low performing kids have basically opted out of the Banneker SAT scores so what exactly is the point here?

I find it incredibly funny that DCI has scores as good as Banneker, a selective school, and posters here actually saying that it’s not fair or comparable.

I would argue that it is not fair and more advantageous on Banneker side since they don’t have the lowest performing kids.

Alao, how can you be sure that some low performing kids are not taking the SAT at DCI and if these kids did not, one could argue that their average be even higher.  Just because all the kids don’t have to take the SAT does not exclude all lower performing kids.[/quote]

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