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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Contact your school administration or legal services office if there is a law school there. I believe that rumor is false, and they do not have time to randomly go door to door on a college campus. They are looking for criminals, high-risk/violent individuals, warrants, and gang members, not the average college student in an off-campus apartment. Your child should comply as instructed, just as he would with any law enforcement officer if they happen to stop him and request identification. It's straightforward and basic when encountering ICE or a police officer. [/quote]

They are disappearing people with no criminal record. They are detaining US citizens.

You do not have to speak to ICE or answer their questions. You can assert your right to remain silent and request a lawyer. You can decline their request to search you or your vehicle. ICE is not allowed into private spaces without a judicial warrant.

OP, here are resources from the Minnesota ACLU:

https://www.aclu-mn.org/know-your-rights/what-if-im-stopped-police-or-ice/
https://www.aclu-mn.org/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-college-students/

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While technically correct, this generally terrible advice from a practical perspective.

If OP’s child is a citizen, s/he should politely answer ICE’s questions and carry/provide proof of citizenship if requested.

99% chance that will end the interaction safely and with no further action.[/quote]

Correction: If OP's child is a [b]white [/b] citizen...[/quote]

I’m PP and my kids are brown, and I’m very confident that they will be fine if the cooperate and present documentation if requested.

I’m even more confident that failing to do so would make their situation MORE dangerous.

So aside from irrational fear-mongering and making kids less safe, you got anything else?

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You are a god dammed fool.

What do you not understand about the number of citizens who are not criminals that have been taken by ICE? Facts matter.

The fact is our courts are litigating a ton of cases just like that. And you think your kids are safe with papers???

Prepare your children this is not going to end well.

The numbers are staggering how many citizens they have put in confinment![/quote]

Yes, facts matter. I’ve read the ProPublica report. Have you?

The number of citizens detained who (a) were not protesting, and (b) presented proof of citizenship is very low.

The data clearly and unequivocally shows this to be true.

You’re letting anxiety distort your view of the actual facts.

And for the record, I’m not a fan of ICE or of Trump—loathe him.
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