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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We also got a lot of dirt on the guide's prior celebrity clients. Apparently, Mariah was the worst, but he loved Brittany.[/quote]

This simply did not happen. [/quote]

Not PP but I’m inclined to believe it. Our safari guide (white SA) loved bragging about the A list celebs they guided.   [/quote]

The Disney VIP guides are consummate professionals. This is not a celebrity homes tour in LA. They would be fired for what pp is saying. [/quote]

Please. I’m guessing you’ve never been on a VIP tour or if you have, got one of the few oldies still left.

Most of the guides are in their 20s and are working hard for that 20% tip so they’ll say what they think you want to hear. Their base pay is only $20/hour. Tips is where some of them hit 6 figures. [/quote]

I do not pay a tip anywhere near 20% when I do this.  I am paying $3000-5000 for a one day service, plus park tickets.  Disney can find ample resources to pay the guides from this fee.  I tip $200.[/quote]

That is way below normal for tip.  Like way below normal.  We tip more like $800.  [/quote]

Why would you need to tip $100 an hour for a service for which you already pay (and what you are paying for is already [u]just[/u] the person's time) $450-950 an hour?[/quote]

Nothing about tipping is rational.  It’s all social norms.  And the norm for VIp tour at WDW is either 20% of cost, or cost of an hour tour.  The guides get paid the basic disney rate — they are very good, very well trained, and are working for the tips.  Your argument is basically like — if you go to an expensive restaurant, why should you tip the server?  Because that’s the thing to do.  If you are spending that kind of money on a tour but don’t have the money to appropriately tip your guide, who are mostly hard working you folk saving up for grad school or a house, you need to reexamine your priorities.  [/quote]

Yeah, no. Disney is certainly not alone in this, but they have conditioned people who are paying an insane amount for services that they also need to pay for the wages of the people who are hired to provide the service.

Let’s assume Disney pays $20/hr to the tour guide. For an 8-hour tour that costs $3600, Disney will pay something like $200-$300, give or take, to the benefit of the employee providing it. Even recognizing that the VIP tour program has some back office cost, Disney is profiting over $2k from that individual tour. And yet we still need to pay the employee to make sure they can eat?!

I can afford a VIP tour and it’s the sort of thing my family would really enjoy, but honestly, the nickel and dining crap ticks me off so much I’d never do it. Does the VP of Parks expect to get paid in tips, or does he demand (and get) a fair pay package? If you value your tour guides as the best of the best, PAY them like it, Disney. [/quote]

That’s a fair decision, provided you decide that you will opt out rather than endorse this kind of pricing arrangement.  I just don’t like people that go in planing on stiffing the guide.  It is the way it is, is either accept it and act appropriately or don’t.[/quote]

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