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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Iran is just a casualty of Israel’s dominance of US politics. The US should be allied with Iran. Iran is a real country, located in an important strategic location and has oil.

The differences between Israel and Iran theocracies are the Israeli racism, oppression and genocide.[/quote]

Iran has been hostile to American from day one of this regime in 1979 and has done nothing since to advance any kind of reconciliation or alliance with the US.

This theocratic regime has been oppressive and authoritarian and has horribly mismanaged Iran.  They can go and maybe THEN we can become friends with its new government.[/quote]
You really don't know what the US did to the Iranian people pre-1979, to cause the revolution do you. If only the USA had been a fair player, even now we still don't know how to play fair and have failed to learn the lesson. Yes, the people hate this regime, but do you really think they once they are deposed, and they eventually will be, that the Iranian people want to go back to pre-1979 under the thumb of an American imposed dictator who disappeared people [/quote]

Nobody here said Iran was perfect under the Shah.  Yes, it was authoritarian, and yes, they had SAVAK repress certain groups, such as marxists, islamists, and dissidents, however most Persians enjoyed quite a bit of freedom otherwise.  But here's the thing - authoritarianism, repression and oppression and human rights abuses got FAR WORSE under the Ayatollahs.  The Shah was not a good person.  But ironically right now, the loudest voices within Iran rising up and calling for change are pro-Pahlavi so even that's recognized as being better than the current status quo.  [b]Bringing a sha back would not be ideal, but perhaps the opportunity would be a democratic, constitutional monarchy similar to the UK.[/b]  Also not perfect, but at least a step in a better direction from where Iran is now.[/quote]
Let them figure it out. Every time the UK or USA got involved it only made things worse for the ordinary Iranian. It's not like we don't have a lot of mess going on over here in our politics. Half the country wants to get rid of the other half, but we want to control the people half way around the world. No, just no. [/quote]

"Letting them figure it out" is what gave us the Ayatollahs and their repression.  And more broadly across the middle east, one crazy islamist terror group after another.  And one corrupt, repressive regime after another.  And most of the world's worst human rights abuses.  And, continued modern-day slavery.  I think maybe the ones allowed to do the figuring out need to be vetted for sanity and decency.[/quote]

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