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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes it is harder for kids here in DC, and NYC is even harder as others have written.[/quote]

It's probably hardest for Bay Area/Silicon Valley kids- much higher numbers of competitive applicants and frankly less diversity[/quote]

It’s so much harder for Bay Area kids. I see posts complaining about the difficulty of UVA admissions when from my perspective it’s far more transparent and clear cut compared to admissions at comparable UCs (Berkeley, LA). [/quote]
UCs are pretty obvious at a majority of California schools. It is a very systematic process.[/quote]

In theory yes, but the outcomes can be quite unpredictable. Like top stats student rejected from UC Davis and Irvine but accepted at Stanford (yes, this actually happens). Whereas I haven’t heard of UVA rejects admitted at Yale, for example. [/quote]

It's not that unpredictable. If a kid isn't Local ELC (Excellence in Local Context i.e. top 9% in their school) and they are from a well resourced school public or private they should not expect to get into UCB or UCLA period. They failed the first step. This makes it brutal in top bay area public schools.[/quote]

For Cal or UCLA, I’d say top 5% unless an institutional priority.  I believe there is a campus hierarchy within the 9%.[/quote]

The 9% ELC number is roughly in line with the acceptance rate so it is a good starting point. But people above and belkow do get accepted and rejected. [/quote]

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