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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]they accepted the exact same number as Cornell? bizarre. can you link that?[/quote] I mean accepted the same number of kids off WL as Cornell. 388[/quote] Cornell is how many X the size of Columbia? There was a significant aberration last cycle in WL utilization at Columbia. It may be over now. But it was an aberration and was talked about widely.[/quote] Yes, and there were still about 60,000 Columbia applicants who were rejected. [/quote] 1/4 of Columbia is GS — an easy admit. Almost as easy as their cash cow grad programs. The ship might not be sinking, but it is definitely taking on water: Columbia will soon share its New York brethren’s status as being the bottom feeder of the Ivy League.[/quote] Weird how this poster has a Columbia GS obsession. Constantly posts about it. Who the f cares? [/quote] NP here. GS students are often older, and they sit side by side with Columbia college students in classes. They also get identical diplomas, watering down the value of the degree. Weird that you're crashing out over this. [/quote] The diplomas are not identical, if you know how to read. Employers know the difference between a Columbia College or Columbia School of Engineering and Applied Science degree and a degree from Columbia General Studies. Just the way they know the difference between a Harvard College degree and a degree from the Harvard Extension School. [/quote] The only undergrad degree Harvard’s Extension School issues is an ALB in Extension Studies. Is that the degree Columbia’s School of General Studies issues? Or does Columbia’s SGS issue BAs and BSs in the same majors as Columbia College? And you’re not disputing that the GS students sit in the same classes as other undergrads. [/quote] The Harvard extension whataboutism has to stop: they do not take classes with real Harvard students, except in unusual circumstances in an occasional summer course. All Columbia GS students take all classes with real Columbia students, except for the common core. All classes: they are 25% of the students. Columbia should have merged them long ago and did not for 2 reasons: 1) GS is not need blind, and 2) they could not hide the lower academic standard of 25% of students so easily without Columbia’s elite status coming into question. U.S. News knows this; that is why it said it wanted merged data with GS. This is the real reason Columbia withdrew from U.S.News rankings….[/quote]
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