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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Both schools are hard to get into, but Columbia is far more selective.  Columbia's acceptance rate in 2025 was 3.9% while Barnard was 8.8%.  Bright kids are present at both school, but on average, Columbia College and SEAS undergrads have higher stats upon admittance.  [/quote]

I don't get it why you splitting hairs here.  Barnard is a college of Columbia University, and it's super selective as is.  Barnard's acceptance rate is comparable to many top schools including Cornell (8.8% vs 8.9%).

Nobody would think Cornall Agriculture or hotel management is not an ivy, their acceptance rate is higher than Cornell Engineering or CAS.  
Nobody would say Penn CAS is not ivy, their acceptance rate is higher than Wharton SEAS.
They all have separate admissions.

In terms of core curriculum, Columbia SEAS takes only half of the core curriculum.  If core is so sacred, would you say Columbia SEAS is only half of an ivy?

So what is it?  Why are you so against a women's college in an ivy league university?[/quote]

OP asked what the differences were between Columbia and Barnard, and people have tried to explain it to them--if you feel that pointing out the differences is "splitting hairs" then you can just respond that the degrees are the same and enjoy your ignorance.
  
1) No one is talking about women's colleges not being part of an Ivy league university.
2) Barnard students get a degree that says Barnard College of Columbia University, but it's not the same degree as one that says Columbia College of Columbia University or SEAS of Columbia University.  
3) In terms of selectivity, yes, Cornell is less selective (in terms of share of applicants admitted) than Columbia College.  Barnard is also less selective than Columbia College.  Ergo, Columbia College is more selective than Barnard, as the PP above explained.  If you think that the selectivity rates are similar because 4% is similar to 9%, that's between you and the person who taught you math.
4) People who know elite universities know that Cornell hotel management and Ag school are much easier to get into than Cornell Arts and Sciences.  The same way they know that it's easier to get into Barnard or Columbia School of General Studies than Columbia College.   
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