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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why not just juvie and prison? If we actually had punishments for committing underaged crimes (shoplifting! Car theft!), then they wouldn't graduate to murder. [/quote]

You've clearly never spent time around kids in juvie. It's more a vicious cycle.  They get into the system and then end up going back over and over again, until they graduate to adult prison.[/quote]

“End up” If only they had some agency![/quote]

Have you ever seen what these kids' lives are like?  They're often in foster care, they have absolutely no one watching out for them.  [b]In bad parts of town school discipline issues end up criminalized so kids are sent to juvie for things like fights in school[/b].  Then they have a record, making jobs or even the military harder.  What life do you think these kids have.[/quote]

This, of course, is a lie.

[quote]The reality is right now society writes off these children pretty much the second they are born.  And you think it's surprising they are angry.  We made them.[/quote]

:roll: “We” didn’t make anything, unless you are referring to the bigotry of your pathetically low expectations.[/quote]

Okay yeah, so you don't know anything. Google the school to prison pipeline.

I worked with these kids.  Kids in the foster system are treated like absolute trash.  By age 17, 50% of them have had an encounter with the criminal justice system.  20% of kids in the foster system end up homeless within 5 years of aging out.

If you think that's on the kids, something is wrong with you.[/quote]

Low expectations is how we end up with the prison pipeline.  YOUR way is how kids end up in prisons.  If we just shrug and give kids in elementary school a pass because they can't read, because of social promotion, because "ugh, literacy and school expectations are colonialist white European culture" then we are setting them up for failure.  We set them up with no likely future of escape from yet another cycle of dysfunction, at best minimum-wage jobs, at worst crime for lack of being able to get a job.[/quote]

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