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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]But Trump wants us down in the mines digging coal and partying like it's 1899.

FFS why are we stuck with this idiot's ideas and why don't Republicans display some common sense and speak up?

The mid-terms can't come fast enough.[/quote]Solar is more expensive, as seen in the RGGI.
And in Europe, they are backing off their targets as models clash with reality.[/quote]

Actually commercial solar is the second cheapest type of electricity to generate by source even in the US( even in North Dakota)

Below are the estimated unsubsidized LCOE ranges in dollars per megawatt-hour ($/MWh) for new power plants, based primarily on 2024 and 2025 reports from sources like Lazard and the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA): 
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Unsubsidized LCOE Range ($/MWh)

Onshore Wind	$27 – $86
Utility-Scale Solar PV	$29 – $92
Natural Gas (Combined Cycle)	$48 – $107
Geothermal	$55 – $396
Coal	$68 – $166
Offshore Wind	$74 – $157
Natural Gas (Peaker Plants)	$115 – $262
Nuclear	$141 – $221

Esmeralda 7 Plant that was cancelled by Trump was schedule to produce 6.2 gigawatts at $25-$30 per MWh. 
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It makes me crazy when people talk about the green scam. Clean energy is literally the cheapest to produce. It's just energy.[/quote]

It is so much more complicated than that. And LCOE, which is what the poster above used, is a deeply flawed metric that green energy supporters love.

Energy delivery is subject to important midstream system constraints as well as dependability/reliability issues.

The two most important are interrelated:   Americans expect the lights to come on when they flip a switch. Intermittent power sources struggle with this. Second, your midstream and backup dispatchable system has to be built out and maintained to deliver at peak demand when non-intermittent are not available, not average.  So when intermittent sources are low (say 10% of the year), dispatchable energy sources have to make a ton of money during that 10% of time in order to pay for their existence 100% of year (variable costs are obviously saved, but 100% of fixed costs have to be earned during that 10% of time).

The reactions to this Australia post are very telling. The “free” energy is causing significant problems/volatility to their energy grid (see also, Spain’s blackout earlier this year).  The Aussies are passing emergency legislation to deal with the instability they are facing.  I am curious to see if they are going to be able to avoid blackouts.

Check in on the Australian energy grid in about 9-12 months and let us know how “great” this is.

I am not anti-green energy. It has its place and role. [/quote]

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