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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]williams
1600 SAT
humanities male. 
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)[/quote]

Williams must be the dream school.

Otherwise it's not the best strategy.  Williams is test optional and puts a lot more weight on GPA than test score.[/quote]

Test-optional does not really apply to white or Asian students from affluent zip codes, however. They’ll assume poor test scores if you don’t submit. TO gives them flexibility with athletes and FGLI applicants, allowing them to build the class they want.[/quote]

Point taken yes for unhooked a good test score must be provided.

Strategically, the inconsistency between gpa and test score doesn't work best for OP at Williams.  Of course if Williams is the dream school then go ahead.  Scoring at 1500 vs 1600 does not move the needle at Williams.

Here is the thing.  That 1600 score may work better at other schools that are test required and value a high score.

Dartmouth comes to mind.[/quote]

Why would 1500-1600 not move the needle at all in Dartmouth? If the GPA is such where the trajectory is up (PP said lower in grade 9 only) the high SAT score should be validating of his upward GPA trajectory.

Everyone on here is so negative.[/quote]

* Williams (not Dartmouth). PP here, that was typed by mistake![/quote]
Can you read? Williams: 45% of freshmen males are athletes. Connect….dots.[/quote]

Yes I can read. And I can also do math. 45% is not equal to 100%. I know parents are stressed this time of year with our seniors, but please let's not be rude to each other. [/quote]
Since you can do math, what percentage of male ED admits is that? And then first gen programs, add those in, and legacy/big donor EDs, and faculty brats. What percentage of slots do you think are left ED? Actually do the math this time.[/quote]

I did the math, and while ED rates for LACs that heavily recruit athletes are inflated by athletes (and FGLI/Questbridge to a lesser extent), it's still a few per cent higher than RD. If PP's son has no other clear favorite, he has not given up anything by applying to Williams ED rather than RD. If anything, he's putting the odds a few extra per cent in his favor. Unless he had an equally desirable non-LAC he could have EDed to.[/quote]
Thank you for putting your ignorance on full display. [/quote]

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