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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Except liberal white women are the least happy cohort, so I guess it isn’t working out well for them either….[/quote]

Can you cite some actual studies? Conservatives love to use this as a talking point, but I've never seen any actual evidence of this. I thought most studies showed that married women with kids were one of the unhappiest groups.[/quote]

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2023/03/how-to-understand-the-well-being-gap-between-liberals-and-conservatives/[/quote]

NP. I think this actually reveals something pretty bizarre about our conversation around these issues. There's a lot of trying to figure out who has it worse. This functions both as an appeal for sympathy, as in the discussion around the "male loneliness epidemic, and as an accusation, as in the discussion of mental illness in white liberal women. These roles are often reversed depending on politics, so you might see one person arguing that male loneliness is symptom of something wrong with men and another arguing that rates of mental illness among liberal women mean you should be conservative to be happier.

But if you actually look at the data, in that link you posted, increasing unhappiness is a problem for EVERYONE. The gap between liberals and conservatives that was there in 2005 is still there today (and of about the same magnitude), but everyone is more depressed than the most depressed group was twenty years ago. A lot of men report often being lonely, but so do a lot of women. Pew gives the numbers as roughly equal (https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2025/01/16/men-women-and-social-connections/), other studies show it as a more pronounced problem among men (https://www.americansurveycenter.org/why-mens-social-circles-are-shrinking/) but with both men and women having declines in the number of friends they have.

I'm not just picking on the conservative literature around this, much of which I agree with despite not being a conservative. People who are married and have kids are generally happier than people who aren't. That's true and it's worth saying. But everyone is less happy than they used to be and that's a bigger problem than figuring out which group is the least unhappy.[/quote]

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