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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Or the parent is a PITA.

Should they celebrate and list a commitment made while at another club?

Seems disingenuous and falsely inflates their commitment webpages to make it appear they get credit. It could literally be an * by a name to indicate that they committed before coming to their club. [/quote]
I disagree. Unless the club says something untrue, I don’t see the issue.

Last year’s Paramount 18s had only 3 of 15 players that had played for Paramount  in a prior season. They “took credit” for commitments of several players who in many cases played 7 or more seasons at other clubs and only the shorter 18s season at Paramount. Was that ok since at least some were playing for Paramount at the time of their commitment?  Even though they got the overwhelming majority of their training and experience (and likely recruiting contacts) at clubs other than Paramount? Because the player made the decision while at Paramount, that means they get credit?

To be clear, I don’t have an issue with Paramount promoting these players, but I think this is a good example of the challenge in trying to decide which singular club deserves to highlight a players’ accomplishments. They played a part in those players’ volleyball experience and why isn’t that ok?[/quote]

Paramount did not take the credit for those commitments. I don't see one player listed in Paramount's "College Commitments" section that committed prior to coming to the club. You can go through it with a fine-toothed comb and you won't find one: https://www.paramountvbc.com/page/show/5380962-college-commitments

Metro, on the other hand, lists players who committed prior to coming to the club. If you go through their lists and backtrack it with commitment posts from other clubs, you will see that there are multiple examples of them taking credit for commitments without differentiating between players who committed prior to coming to the club vs players who committed while playing for the club. https://www.metrovbc.com/college-commitments[/quote]
I don't really get what you mean by "taking credit". The achievement belongs to the player, and as was discussed above, in most cases these players played for multiple clubs during the course of their club career. If a player was on a team at a particular club and the club chooses to highlight that player what's the problem? And including them on lists of committed players who played for the club is accurate. Sure that's marketing for the club, but it's not deceptive.

If you're going to get so hyper technical about which club is responsible for developing a player into a collegiate level athlete,  Paramount absolutely took credit for players who did not come to the club until their 18s season. Do you really believe that Paramount played a big role in developing the skills of players who literally played for the club for only a few months at the time of their commitment? And they do list college commitments on their roster pages, including players that were committed prior to joining Paramount.

As far as I can tell, the Metro approach is to list players for which Metro was the last club they played for prior to enrolling in college.  For example there were players in both the class of 2024 and 2025 who committed to Power 4 programs while playing for Metro but chose to go to IMG for their senior year of high school and 18s club season that are not listed on the Metro College Commitments page.

IMO, the Paramount web page describing the 2023 18s Team's 5th Place in 18 Open at USAV Nationals as an "All Time CHRVA Record" is far more misleading. As far as I know, it's technically accurate that is the highest placing for a CHRVA team in 18 Open, but there have been higher placings by other CHRVA teams in Open divisions in other age groups at USAV Nationals. You really need to read the fine print to understand the claim being made there and an uninformed reader would assume that was the highest placing for CHRVA team at USAV Nationals period, which is not true.

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