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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I used to hire for investment banking on Wall Street, recruiting at major schools (particularly my TT alma mater). If I were still in that role, I would be certain to avoid these kids like the plague.

I met one of these kids at an alumni event recently and he was so proud of having been in the club and landing the dream Wall Street job, and how many of his friends also had. I couldn't listen to it. A few years earlier I'm sure he was the same kid advertising his 20 AP classes or his fake extracurriculars. I was embarrassed that my alma mater, which was always pretty pre-professional, seems to have strongly embraced this.

The club kids sound absolutely insufferable. Particularly those who already come from privileged backgrounds. I am more understanding of the kids who come from less privileged backgrounds who see it as a way to educate themselves on something that might be somewhat foreign to them.[/quote]

girl you were at an alumni event at your you-must-say TT alma mater. dont be shocked when there are snakes in a lake. don't hate the snake for being in the lake. if you dont like it, dont swim in a lake.[/quote]

You and the other person who replied to me don't get it. But DCUM is not known for reading comprehension. It is known for ignorant know-it-alls who stand on their head trying to make witty contrarian remarks which only demonstrate their lack of critical thinking skills.

I try hard to tell both sides of a story here. Such as I generally think these clubs are awful, but I guess they serve some purpose so as much as I hate them, I guess they can kind of be justified. I am writing this stream of conscious while doing better things in my life. I am usually very particular about my use of language. But I don't need to kill myself to impress people here.

I give up. Trying to give some perspective that seemed to be lacking here and get attacked. Meanwhile all of the people who have never been within a mile of Wall Street are experts. Best of luck to you.[/quote]
I'm the other person who replied to you. I never claimed to be an expert. I'm sad you chose to spend your energy on this much ruder reply instead of my well-meaning (well, maybe "better-meaning" at least) questions (the second and third ones at least, as they weren't rhetorical)[/quote]

Fair enough. Apologies (OMG - someone apologized on DCUM - stop the presses!). What I am saying is that these clubs should exist as entities that are open to all to help those who do not have a background or need further help. Not as some competitive ponzi scheme to inflate the egos of those in charge, which is what they have become. I appreciate that being open to all might not be easy if there are dozens of kids interested, but they can figure it out.

As they currently exist, these clubs shouldn't exist. And I wish the hiring investment banks did not encourage them. But as discussed in other posts, they are unfortunately increasingly gaining traction at the banks and the alumni club members are hiring current club members, so it is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Which is a shame.

When I started out in banking in the dark ages, for most roles and groups, we did not ask particularly technical questions. We were mainly looking for smart, hard-working team players. We would teach them the rest. I knew English majors with no relevant internships who got hired as bankers (and succeeded). They had maintained good grades (though we also were less concerned about grades back then) while spending many hours a week leading a campus organization, holding several jobs to pay tuition, or playing a sport or instrument. So they could handle the stress and the hours.[/quote]

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