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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Article: https://paw.princeton.edu/article/princeton-admissions-will-again-require-standardized-tests-2027?fbclid=IwZnRzaANU7X9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHvmrW3LZZY5mXPhvhsCrG2EWBpksuhc_7ikmbdAsRlzFNBeZR56RezvUNEk5_aem_KjQIumqc7QdB6-__Om2GrQ[/quote]

The University reviewed data from five years of test-optional admissions and “found that academic performance at Princeton was stronger for students who chose to submit test scores than for students who did not,” the announcement said.[/quote]
This is a big nothingburger. They knew that going in, before the experiment — as did everyone. The experiment was about whether these TO kids could do well and succeed at Princeton. They have given no data at all on that point, under the guise of giving us a “conclusion” on the obvious point. It’s an obfuscation.[b] The actual numbers must be even worse than expected…[/b][/quote]

Yep that is what professors have been muttering at two different ivies since 2021 when my first launched. They claimed to see a difference in stem that first semester with TO students on campus. [/quote]

My professor friends have also been complaining about weaknesses in students since the pandemic. It's not necessarily TO though. Students are having a harder time preparing for class, participating in class, communicating difficulties with professors respectfully, submitting assignments on time. High schools are not teaching the necessary soft skills -- it's not because their standardized test scores are too low.[/quote]
Yeah, it has nothing to do with TO and everything to do with learning loss + social media. Attention span and work habits were crushed. Basic problem solving has bee impacted to the point that people ask gen AI basic questions. [/quote]

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