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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Beyond - Beach drive. This is a problem all over the area. Full respect and patience for those that can only commute via a bike; share the road  with infinite patience.

The ones that do it recreationally and can ride almost anywhere else less dangerous; why am I dealing with these guys?  I don't think the law was written with these guys in mind.

I used to ride my bike every weekend and I did it on a trail or I did it on a road with little traffic.  I commuted to work a few times. My attitude was safety for myself and others around me. I took a few timed risk crossing busy intersections when I had to. But for the most part using my body as a shield so I can protect my rights to ride on a busy road is stupidity. Do these people not have kids or family that their actions unnecessarily jeopardize their family lives as well? They look like Karens on wheels at this point.  [/quote]

Sort of up to them if they want to take risks with their health, isn’t it? If it’s okay with their families, I don’t see why you need to get upset about it. [/quote]

Well what if someone trying to pass them hits me or my family? Did they make a decision for all of us if they don't care about themselves or their families? If it's recreational why cause the hazardous situation in the first place?

Trying to understand where they are  coming from? Are they OK if I ride at 5mph, during rush hour, and take a full lane while they are trying to get to work or drop kids off at school?[/quote]

I mean, you could ask all the same questions about anyone else on the road, in whatever vehicle. I don't think bicyclists are inherently MORE dangerous to you if you're in a car than other drivers are. If you want to complain about them, that's fine, but don't frame it around concern for their well being or their family's futures.[/quote]

Nope. Every car needs to move to a lane with oncoming traffic in-order to pass a slow bicyclist. No other vehicle: car, truck, bus, van, motorcycle or scooter causes that consistently.  Worse of all, it's recreational and totally avoidable. If it's recreational aren't there safer places? And any time you force a vehicle onto oncoming traffic you place them at risk. Don't fool yourself. If someone got hurt - it's on your hands. [/quote]

Do you only drive on one-lane roads? And what makes you think all cycling is only recreational? But at least you're now complaining about cycling's effects on you, not on the risks to the cyclists themselves, this is an improvement.[/quote]

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