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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]An IEP is made to support a students ability to access the curriculum. If your kid is in AP classes, they are more than accessing the curriculum.  Hence, no support required.[/quote]

This is not true. Bright kids who have an IEP and are otherwise qualified for an AP or any advanced class or magnet have a right to the same supports and accommodations in the AP or advanced class.

Whatever accommodations are on the IEP must be delivered in all classes - no exceptions. I have had 2 kids in magnets - 1 with an IEP and 1 with a 504. The AP teacher is obligated to comply with the accommodations.

AP classes are considered part of the curriculum - not “more than the curriculum.”

What kind of “support” does your child need in an AP class, OP?[/quote]

Some might find this controversial but I think if your kid is on a college pathway it is probably reasonable (from a parenting perspective) [b]to start getting them used to a less supportive environment in some of their more challenging academic classes.[/b] 504 accommodations are more similar to what will be available at the college level so I didn’t think it was a terrible thing when our kids AP classes weren’t supported.[/quote]

This is ridiculous. Our kids disabilities don't improve over time and don't go away. The goal is for our kids to learn and access the content. My kids are out of college now but both the huge state school one kid went to and the small private my other kid went to provided the same accommodations. [/quote]

People here are describing a specific IEP accommodation (eg a second teacher in the classroom). Have you ever seen as a college accommodation a second teacher in the room to keep a child on task, or to redirect them from explosive meltdowns?

Colleges do offer reasonable accommodations but they are not required to offer at the same level as IEPs. To tell people otherwise is misleading.

Some things that are in an IEP will translate over, like extra time for testing. Others, like reduced homework, are very unlikely to be approved as a college accommodation.

I am only suggesting that if you have a kid on a pre-college track it might be good for them to begin to get used to the types of accommodations that they are likely to see in college which may be a step down from HS. Transitioning to college is a big step. Losing supports you are used to at the same time as shifting to college feels like it would make it much harder if the child hadn’t been preparing in advance.

I’m not fighting that colleges offer accommodations. Clearly some accommodations will translate. But not every accommodation will translate and the specific one people are talking about here is an accommodation that is unlikely to be available in college.[/quote]

Honestly, IME, post-pandemic at a large top 50 school, accommodations are better than in HS. Disability law applies in college, and colleges have much deeper pockets if they are sued and they have a bigger mass of disabled students so they pay for more supports - which are often available to all. My kid could have access to a videotape of fresh Chem 101 to watch in his dorm. He didn’t need an aide to keep him on task when he could up the video speed to 1.5 time and stop it and rewind when he didn’t catch something. In classes where there is no video, he can use an app that records the teachers voice, produces a transcript, makes a AI summary and syncs the audio with his written notes so that he can tap the page and hear what the teacher was saying when he was writing a specific note.

College is actually easier in many ways than HS. DC doesn’t have to take boring subjects, or subjects in his area of weakness. He can drop classes that require long papers or get an extra time accommodation without having to fight with the prof about it. He has far less class time than in HS, so he has much more time to study and do work. He can study where he feels most productive. He can get a tutor or executive function coach if he wants. He can form a study group and benefit from the organization and motivation of peers.

I wish people would stop pushing the supposed lack of accommodations in college or the workplace as a reason not to get or use accommodations in HS.  It’s just not a realistic reflection of how much more accommodating and manageable the college environment can be.

It is a terrible thing disabled kids are not supported in advanced classes. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.[/quote]

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