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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Our daughter did not get into [b]Duke, Vandy, Penn, Michigan [/b]OOS for engineering/CS. High stats (1500+) and highest rigor for her school. Good ECs but not great for STEM. I thought being a girl would help but these schools are just incredibly tough for these majors.
She got merit from Pitt, Lehigh, Case for engineering. [/quote]

Ours is at one of those privates and also was accepted to the other privates plus another top one. The women at her college were all top stem, they won very similar stem awards at their high school as well as at least state or even national level. Most also seem to have a non-stem EC that they got accolades for , ie debate or music at states, concertmaster, similar. They all did stem research in high school. D was amazed there were so many cracked kids. The males are too but fewer were valedictorian which is interesting. Something about stem attracts top top performing females yet attracts a broader group of males. [/quote]

Top top performing females have the high math SATs and prep to be comfortable taking engineering classes.  Without that solid background, the student will flounder and a lot of women know to avoid floundering. I believe there's still a gender skew among top math SAT scorers, with more males at the top end. Which is probably why they still double the verbal to get National Merit Finalists (so you won't notice the gender skew, and NMFs aren't all math nerds).  In a related shocking note, it might even be possible to reverse or limit the gender skew on the SAT just by choosing to ask more of the problem types where females outperform males.  There has been research on that but it has not been widely reported and it is old.  The faster pace of test change and Covid and more cheating scandals means that only College Board can have a good idea on where things are headed.  They certainly are restricting the amount of official digital test prep available these days.  [/quote]

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