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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hard to tell without knowing who the coaches are.

But I think if you are not on an MLSNext or ECNL team, it might be worth it based on the assumption that you’re training with a strong group of kids since it is tryout based.

I have no idea how much it is though so that will factor in. There are already a lot of small group training and great coaches around that are known good trainers.

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I will add that redbull and Philadelphia have the same program and there are some threads in other groups (eg, FB) that gripe about the cost and that it’s not worth it and that very rarely are any players recruited from the RDS.

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I've seen kids get picked up through their RDS system.  If a player doesn't make it, maybe they're not on that level.[/quote]

Most of the kids whose parents are interested are label-thirsty.  They are open for business from any high-level label that wants them: DCUA, MLS Next, ECNL, ODP, etc.

I hope this helps well-meaning but naive parents.  Do any of these parents know the development model for DCUA?  Who is coaching?  What is the benefit of the training?  Do they correct bad technique?

DCUA is guilty on focusing on pace when internationally, the focus up to age 14 is technical development and ball mastery.  As someone else mentioned, my child has open invites to all of the invite-only training that I am aware of which focuses on technical ball mastery with the top kids in the area so why would I need DCUA to develop?  Is DCUA going to sprinkle magic black and red pixie dust on your kids feet to teach them how to use their weak foot or how to take a ball out of the air?  That is accomplished by boring wall passing and receiving and unopposed ball mastery drills which can be done for $FREE.99.  Become a standout by doing double the number of reps on your weak foot as your strong foot until they don’t know whether you are left footed or right footed at the next tryout.

99% of kids are not proficient with both feet and can’t take a sloth 1v1 but want to be scouted by DCU 😂.

Learn the 🇺🇸 soccer game and play it. Don’t let these fancy acronym organizations play you.

If you have never:

-Had an opposing team ask you to guest play for them
-Been offered a free club sponsorship to play for a club
-Been invited to invite only training where your technique is called out and you are pushed
-Been invited to guest on a top tournament team
-Had local clubs trying to poach you from your current club

You are just not good enough YET.  Have your kid get to work to become that player that experiences those things.

100% honest truth and feel free to spend your money as you feel fit with this info.

IF they someone grab some of the top technique coaches in the area, I will easily change my tune.[/quote]

"DCUA is guilty on focusing on pace when internationally, the focus up to age 14 is technical development and ball mastery"

So Barcelona Academy, Real Madrid Academy, Arsenal Academy at 14 years of age doesn't focus on speed of play aka: pace?

DCUA starts at U14, so where did you get their pre-U14 individual development plan for U-littles?[/quote]

You compared pace at DCUA with pace at La Masia which clearly indicates you don’t know anything.  This was a classic official DCUA PR response so they can’t even get anonymous trolling right? 😂🤣😂🤣

Hey, the owners are brilliant.  They are raking in millions and these details for parents are buried in an anonymous blog so most won’t find it.  Those that do will still believe in the DCUA foot ferry who will make their average EDP III player an academy baller in just 8 sessions for $395.  🤣😂🤣😂

No wonder private equity is entering youth sports. I need to start a club.[/quote]

Actually, pace at DCUA wasn't compared to pace at European academies.

What was directly addressed was you saying DCUA focuses on pace at 14 but European academies do not.

So you either don't know what pace is in soccer or you don't know what's happening at European academies at 14 years old[/quote]

Nice try.  Unfortunately for you DCUA, we have been overseas to Portugal and Italy and my child has trained with Cat I and Cat II equivalent academies if we use the EEEP as a metric.  There are a number of options to knowledgeable parents, even in the states.  The FIFA rules are posted in a lengthy post about how to avoid your academy right here on DCUM.  There are a number of families without dual passports in Europe provided you follow the rules.

Again, you are going to grab a lot of loot from the uneducated masses with the new RDS but the people with options and kids who can actually play are trying to avoid you at all costs.  And whether true or not, the three MLS academies we have been in contact with have used “avoid DCUA” in their pitch.

Instead of using PR hours on DCUM, use the PR team to develop a way to have year round futsal and small sided play so the DMV can actually produce players locally worthy of the amount of money invested by parents.  Families are investing $200 a hour into kids who can’t beat anybody 1v1.  Since you know so much development, you should know the neural pathways for technique and ball mastery are reaching the end of the prime development right when you decide to bring kids into the academy.  You are literally five years behind. Nine years behind in comparison to how Philly operates.

It is sad to see an organization so committed to mediocrity and defend incompetence.  Yeah, I’ll pass.[/quote]

How did you get in touch with other MLS Academies? Did you or your kids coach reach out?[/quote].

Not the OP, but ours got scouted at MLS events.  Your coach won't reach out for your player.  We had 4 interested and funny thing is we were told "avoid DCU", just like a previous poster stated.

You can also try reaching out to them through the teams site, but I'm sure they get bombarded with forms so I don't know how viable that is.[/quote]

MLS events like showcases and tournaments or just regular league play? What age group were they scouted at? Thank you!

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Yes at showcases and tournaments.  The only scout I've seen at regular games were DCU ones.  Scouted at u14, went on trial at a few academies, went to play for one at u15.  I know others had been scouted at u14.[/quote]

Nice! That’s awesome! How did DCU scouts miss your kid?

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When academy scouts pick 25 out of 40 regional kids because they meet the criterion of their program, it doesn't mean they missed the other 15

No academy on planet earth has roster sizes that can fit all the talent in their region [/quote]

Is DCUA known to enforce their protected list? I’ve heard stories of other MLS clubs enforcing it for players who never played (or declined to play) for their academies. Does that happen with DCUA?[/quote]

Every academy enforces their protected player list because it’s an opportunity to make money. Another academy who wants a player on DCUs protected list can buy them.[/quote]

What are the amounts of money being exchanged? Like how much are transfers worth?[/quote]

This is where most people don't have the experience or understanding of the system to answer this question.  But let me break it down for you:

First, for unsigned youth players in a MLS academy like DCU, they aren't "transferred" to another MLS academy per se. If they move within the MLS it would be considered an internal MLS transaction and what is actually happening is that the acquiring club is purchasing the players homegrown rights (meaning the territory rights to the youth player and the right to sign them to a homegrown contract which is what all the MLS clubs are trying to do because it gives them the most potential to make money on the player as they have exclusive rights over the player).  Real money isn't exchanged rather the MLS clubs use General Allocation Money (GAM) to fund these types of transactions. Think of GAM as MLS currency. Every club in the MLS receives about 1.5-2 million in GAM funds each year in their budget directly from the MLS.

Second, because this isn't a technically a transfer, different compensation is owed.  There isn't a transfer fee.  But, the club will usually request training compensation for the player if they have invested in him.  This compensation can vary widely depending on how resourced the club is and how much time the player has spent in the club.  That's said, these fees can get up there in the 20-50k per year a kid was in the club.  So as you can imagine, it is quite a negotiation if a. The player has been in the club for a while b. The club sees the player has potential and c. The player is closer to becoming a pro (as opposed to u14 when they are way far off from that).

So let's play this out...u17 player has been in DCU for three years and wants to move to Philly Union.  DCU will 100 percent request GAM for this player (could be anywhere from 60k-100k range depending on individual factors)and unless they are good enough, Philly Union may not want to pay them.  So, he is stuck.  And he will need to search for a club that wants to play the GAM DCU wants.  Sounds crazy but this is what happens.  The way around this for a player is if the family moves territories.  Then they are no longer in the homegrown market they were once in and the club can request his rights directly from the MLS because they reside in a new territory.

These negotiations are highly individualized and based on circumstances of the player and his experience with and value at the club.  I have seen instances where a player's rights were let go for nothing because the club didn't see potential in the player and they didn't want to restrict his movement.  I have also seen where a club stands by its desire to get GAM and the player can't make a move like he wants.  It's business. Also remember this is MLS to MLS only.  Moving outside the MLS is different both domestically and internationally.

It's an ugly side of the MLS academy system that is VASTLY underestimated and misunderstood by so many parents in the DMV. What you need to know is that as soon as you sign up with DCU understand that if you want to move to another MLS academy, it may not happen as you want it and DCU will have a say in what you will be able to accomplish.[/quote]

Why is it only misunderstood by DMV parents and why is it only a problem to move from DCU to another academy but not move from all academies to another?[/quote]

Let's see...we are posting on a DMV focused thread.  The only relevant academy in the DMV is DCU when talking about the MLS.. Not hard.

Yes, most parents in the COUNTRY do not understand these rules.  And this is relevant for all MLS academies and their players.  [/quote]

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