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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can someone, without an agenda, explain why it seems that lower sat scores seem to have no association with dropout or retention rates at these schools? If these tests are such good predictors of success, why wouldn’t. Complete 100 point drop in score not change your outcomes.[/quote]

US colleges spend a lot of time trying to find the best students (while rejecting mos) for a particular class and then exert a ton of effort to ensure they graduate.

A top Canadian school like U Toronto essentially admits everyone who meets a certain threshold but then is quick to fail you out if you aren’t cutting it.  They bake a failure rate into their numbers because they could never have say 100% of the starting EE majors actually continue all 4 years as they don’t plan for that when you get to more advanced classes. [/quote]

This and there isn’t a linear relationship between test performance and school performance above a certain threshold.  [/quote]

I don't understand the point.  PP said that kids don't dropout of Princeton, not that they all are achieving 4.0s.  "not dropping out" is a far cray from comparing school performance among the class

Taking again the U Toronto comparison...I know my kid who applied for CS had to have scored a 5 on Calc BC to even apply for the program.  It's safe to say if the only kids admitted scored a 5 on Calc BC and whatever may be the Canadian equivalent (as juniors or earlier), they are probably fairly strong students from the start.  Now, there are still many kids that score a 5 and select a major and find they don't really like the major or don't put in the effort to do well, and they fairly quickly realize they need to switch majors or are kicked out of the major.[/quote]

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