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What about the 6 players who left? Did they move to first teams somewhere? Maybe they prefer to be starters on first teams? Were there players who played down at 14 and decided to move up to 16? That's pretty common. Did any of them move out of the area? Did any find the commute too long? Did any want to focus more on academics? Maybe they don't like the coaches... There are many, many possible reasons why they left. If some of the starters left for various reasons, the team has to replace them with others.[/quote]
Not the PP poster although I love all the statistics. Really wish we could require clubs to publish this type of info to help us with club selection.

If the data is right, 70+ players out of ~130 left Paramount last year.  Is there any club in CHRVA that has that level of departures?  Are there any in the top 10 teams?

In statistical terms I'd be willing to bet Paramount is 3+ standard deviations away from the turnover rates at other top clubs in the region. Why do you think that is?  Every club faces exactly the same challenges that cause player departures that you list so why is Paramount the outlier here?[/quote]

Conversely, who are the clubs in the top 10 that consistently have a super high retention rate? Metro is better but who is the best or better? Replacing nearly half your club players seems pretty crazy. Though fits with anecdotes you hear over and over.  [/quote]
Running the data for all the clubs will take a bit of time, but is possible. If I can I'll pull it. In the meantime, here's Metro's stats.  For equivalent comparison to Paramount, Metro North is treated like the 2s team for Metro.  Treating Metro North as a 2s team to Metro travel does have some issues though, since geographically the teams aren't co-located (~40+ mile drive apart). I've included them to give a relative comparison to both Paramount and any other clubs data is presented for.

For this analysis, all 2025 Metro Travel & North teams from U14-18 were included. Metro North's 13s was included. Metro Travels 13s was not, because they did not have a 12s Travel team in 2024. There were 3 players from 2024 12-2s that moved up to 2025 13-1s. Those 3 were included in the retained #s because historically Metro North has placed multiple players onto Metro Travel.

For brevity, Metro Travel = 1s, Metro North = 2s in the data.

- Overall:
  - 145 Players played for either 1s or 2s teams. 
  - 101 players returned from the previous year
  - 44 new players were added
  - Retention Rate: 70%
  - Turnover Rate: 30%
  - Metro's turnover was -24% below Paramount's, or roughly half of their turnover.

By Team:
  - 18-1: 14 returning, 1 new
  - 18-2: 7 returning, 5 new
  - 17-1: 14 returning, 1 new
  - 17-2: 8 returning, 5 new
  - 16-1: 13 returning, 1 new
  - 16-2: 10 returning, 2 new
  - 15-1: 10 returning, 4 new
  - 15-2: 4 returning, 9 new
  - 14-1: 7 returning, 6 new
  - 14-2: 6 returning, 6 new
  - 13-2: 5 returning, 7 new (but could be +3 returning if they hadn't moved from 12-2 to 13-1)

Metro Travel #s (includes any 2025 player who played for Travel or North in 2024), U14-U18:
   - 58 returning, 13 new
   - Retention rate: 82%
   - Turnover rate: 18%

Metro North #s (includes any 2025 player who played for Travel or North in 2024), U14-U18
   - 35 returning, 27 new
   - Retention Rate: 56%
   - Turnover Rate: 44%
   - Note: 13-2 was excluded from this calculator because the 3 players who moved to 13-1 create a data matching problem

Comments:
   - Only 2 teams (15-2, 13-2) add more new players than they kept.
   - 13-2 is a special case due to the lack of a 12-1s team, but shown above for completeness of Metro North's retention rate.[/quote]

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