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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Looking at t20 colleges We live in nyc and kid attended under-resourced public schools k-8 and then private for HS She has a few essays in prelim stage. But hard to know what colleges will be looking for. In the past, I would have said the story. And one essay mentions that “distance traveled” in a way that’s organic and appropriate. The other doesn’t, although it’s interesting and good. [b]We’ll likely be full pay but I’d like to at least throw our css in, just in case things change. I don’t really know how colleges would know we’re full pay our Neighborhood and schools are mixed.[/b] But she could drop some bits to make her some well off. Which is more compelling these days. Can’t have it both way n[/quote] Yes - thats part of the question. Landscape doesn’t help much in a lot of Brooklyn for example. [/quote] Then this is a question for counselor who is familiar with brooklyn full pay candidates who may appear to poor? All I will say is that the world is very different after this last cycle. I know way too many people who tried to have it both ways (with CSS/FAFSA just in case) and then got WL at 8 schools never to be chosen off the WL. Play the long game now. These schools not only want full pay, they actually NEED full pay. Harvard announced a hiring freeze (like Northwestern and Cornell did in the spring). Things are not just going to get better. Different IPs come into play (institutional priorities). Two equal candidates from a school, one looks wealthier than the other - both do not add to "diversity" or have any other hooks. Who do you think gets into a private college? We already know Michigan OOS openly favors full-pay kids from private HS. Not surprising given their financial situation as well. If the question is, how do we showcase wealth in an application? That's been answered here before - I can find the post if you want. It includes: - [b]don't include SSN in the Common App[/b] - include titles for parents jobs where they indicate a high level of prestige or wealth (C-Suite, Managing Partner, Founder) etc - even if slightly misleading - include top-tier parent college info (many will tell you to omit) esp for the graduate level - include ECs that signify wealth or that paying tuition is not a problem (but don't write essays about it) [/quote] What is the reason not to include SSN? [/quote] The SSN is only required for Financial Aid. If you complete it, the numbers are XX'd out for the AO. If you don't complete, it just says blank. Its a soft way that they can tell if you applied for aid or not. Discussed here (link below) and on YCBK podcasts recently as well. https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1221854.page[/quote] my kid applied SCEA to Princeton, we didn't do SSN, and we did our FA forms much much later. this was just last cycle so my memory is pretty clear on this. if you dont turn your FA forms in early to Princeton (and yale .. and maybe others), you aren't disqualified from receiving FA, you just won't get your offer back when you get your SCEA decision. isn't this true for RD too? financial forms due later. you can fill in SSN numbers then. [/quote]
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