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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wait, white people are not strivers. It is mainly used for asian gunners. That have immigrant parents that think only USNWR top 20 will do for college. [/quote] yes, this is how the word is defined on dcum - Asian immigrants who want to go to top schools, and get high paying jobs. How dare they strive for that. White people who do the same aren't strivey. No. They are allowed to do this without being labeled because.... they are white, and white people should be the ones who control the wealth and status in this country as they always have. They look down on others who strive to reach the upper echelons. Rich white people who send their kids to T10 aren't strivey. No. They were just born into it. Asian immigrants who send their kids to T10 are strivey. They are obvious try hards. /s[/quote] So bitter, so wrong. 100% of the kids that my daughter and her friends view as “strivers” are white. And my daughter is URM and most of her friends are of Indian or Vietnamese heritage.[/quote] Also, I'm not bitter because I'm not strivey, neither are my kids, and neither are my parents, who are immigrants. My parents wanted a comfortable middle class life. I wanted a comfortable UMC life, which I achieved by hard work and going to a regional B rated state school My kids want the life we have - UMC and comfortable. They are going to large public state flagship. But, I don't begrudge people for wanting to strive for T10. Rich, well connected people do it all the time, and no one labels them. Why label immigrants who have the same goals? Typically, the word is used against immigrants who are not white. So, yes, it is classism and racism.[/quote] You don't know enough strivers to understand it's not about race. [/quote] oh, so then it's about class. How do you think most people in the upper class go to where they are? Because most were strivey. What makes one strivey, then? If a LMC parent wants their kid to go to a T10 to be able to become UMC is that strivey? Most on DCUM think it's great to uplift LMC to UMC. But if an UMC immigrant parent wants their kids to strive for a T10, that is strivey (negative connotation) because why? They are being uppity to try to get more? If a rich person wants their kids to go to a T10 and uses family money or legacy, that's just normal, and "keeping it in the family", and "it creates a tight knit community feel in the college", ie, we don't want outside strivers. Given that most Asian immigrants have no connections, family money, legacy in T10, how else are they supposed to help their kids get into a T10? Oh, they shouldn't.. they are being strivey, right? Seems a bit racist to me.[/quote] It's not racist because it's not about race. It's not really about class since people from all classes can be strivers. You claim if you are wealthy you have must have been a striver at some point. That isn't true. Some worked hard in construction and don't even have a degree, some were lucky and joined AOL as a nerdy teen and got stock options, some knew the right people and were handed jobs, some were born on 3rd base ... not all are strivy. Someone is strivey if they lack conviction and will stab people in the back to get where they want to be, they are single minded with 1 goal to be in a position to make a lot of money and "be in the crowd" with those wealthy people. A rich person going to a T10 school is not necessarily strivey, because you can't strive for something you already have. Wealthy students don't ice out non wealthy students in college (strivers do though), they are literally there so the less wealthy can make connections and have someone help them financially with their start up. That is why colleges have legacy, and more than full pay admits. Why would you go to Harvard if there are no wealthy kids with dad's who will hire you or fund your start up. Here is the thing... many kids get to T10 without being strivey, they are just talented. If you want to get to T10 and you're not necessarily talented in anything (athlete/arts/activism/tech) and the only way to get there is to be strivey then be strivey, why do you care? Study your butt off for the SATs, ace them, do all the things that you hate but will look good on a resume. Nobody cares, but that is strivey. Also, the % of strivers that actually get into T10 is low so many are not willing to do it because it destroy's the childhood of those that were strivers but were not accepted. The nice critics would just like you to know, that your kid can go to school, have fun, engage in activities they love... and go to JMU or Towson and be successful. BTW most Asians do this because their parents tried to turn them into strivers and they hated it. But if you want T10 knock your socks off, be a striver. BTW, the amount of wealthy kids that go to T10 is not as much as you think. In a family of 4 wealthy kids one is going T10 (maybe... but most likely Tufts), one is gonna try to save the world, one is going to go to a T40 and work in finance and one is going to overdose. [/quote]
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