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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Jesus if he really existed. 
Buddha if he really existed.
Muhammad if he really existed.

Those would be in the top 10 for sure. 
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There is [b]pretty widespread academic consensus[/b] that Jesus and Muhammad were really historical figures.[/quote]

That doesn't mean a thing. 
There was once widespread academic consensus the Earth was flat and the center of the Universe also. [/quote]
DP. Don't be such a dumb narcissist. We have [b]historical evidence that they existed, in written records[/b], the original sources from the Romans about Christ. He was an undisputed historical figure. Clearly, he was the forefather of philosophy that is now called communism and that has widespread appeal to many people who understand the philosophy of equality. I am not referring to the economic orders that use communism to bastardize the term and the theory and to abuse others.[/quote]

Gee wiz, anyone can write something down. Doesn't make it historical fact.

"Aliens visited me just now. We talked and laughed, and they went back to their planet."  <--- Now there is historical records online that anyone can research to prove aliens visited Earth. :D :D [/quote]

Among the 12 disciples were people who wrote extensively about Jesus (hint, it's called books in the Bible) and went on to found churches, including St. Peter who established what is now the Catholic church. The early history of Christianity is quite fascinating. Are you alleging that all these people throughout the first few hundred years conspired to invent a totally fictional preacher to hoodwink people? I'm not a "believer" in a meaningful sense but even I accept the very high plausibility of a gifted preacher and thinker who, over the next few centuries, was effectively deified by his followers.

Sneering about aliens is a mark of dimwitted bigotry. And even if you refuse to accept the existence of someone who was the origin of Jesus, the figure in the Bible is still a powerful concept with a strongly human-oriented philosophy and moralism that resonates to this day that in a way it's practically irrelevant whether Jesus existed or not.

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The earliest of the 4 Gospels were written in AD 60s, over 30 years after the death of the Christ. [/quote]

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