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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I deliberately picked an engineering program that did not have intentional weed out classes. They had and have a high graduation rate. The faculty perspective is that they filter more in the admissions process, which was good for me but would not have been good for a late bloomer. The first day, when all engineering srudents were in an auditorium, the dean's message was that everyone here is capable of graduating in 4 years with an engineering degree. The faculty were committed to helping every student graduate, which I found reassuring and helpful. I made the right college choice for me, but it might not have been right for someone else. [/quote] My kid is at an ivy with an engineering school: they do not weed out much as 98% continue in the E school after freshman year. The other ivy they considered has a much larger engineering group and also boasts high retention. The other two top-10 privates they considered have E schools in the 350-450 range similar to the ivy they chose and also are clear weedout is done before admission. Kid did all 4 admitted student days to decide and is very happy with the one they picked, Penn: collaboration is the norm, though the other 3 mentioned this as well. DS and peers are only sophomores and they have gotten lots of support from faculty along with very challenging courses. Cs are pretty rare, but for the few who get more than one C for the final grade theylike you to meet with advisor and discuss. Kid has a good friend at one of the top10s he didnt pick and it is run supportive as well and Cs are rare. They also do a lot of undergrad research. Some students study almost all weekend and many hours at night to get As and others study the same and get the average on the curve (B or B+) no matter how much they study. No one takes more than 4 years to graduate unless they are doing 4+1 masters. 4 years for BSE is doable and expected[/quote]It's surprising that engineering has a higher retention rate than the school as a whole. It's also nice to see that nobody fails. I guess Penn bats a thousand when accepting students. [/quote] My DS just graduated Duke Engineering. No one fails and almost no one gets C or D. The courses are curved to B/B+ median or even A-. 3.7 is the average final engineering gpa and 3.8 for Trinity. Only around 5% transfer Pratt to Trinity after first year but it is due to fit/choice more than grades. Most top ranked privates are like that for Engineering the past several years: the hard part is getting in. They work very hard but the curves are set quite differently than 30 years ago when 1/2 my spouse’s CMU courses got C or below. [/quote]
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