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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes we have. Despite women being more independent, their objectification continues to worsen. Take onlyfans as classic textbook example. Most content is provided by women for men to consume. To justify this objectification for women, they argue that women making money on this platform is empowering. They are just low hanging fruits. The owners of that site most likely men are the ones profiteering.

Back to your question. It's a tricky question because women argue that you "don't have to look".and they are not putting on make up etc for you. But at the same time if they are single and looking they expect you to compliment them on the effort they put in.

But overall I'll agree that men (thanks for social media another vehicle to exploit women) have become decentized. Maybe that's why you now so many men under 40 needing Viagra...[/quote]

But every woman IS beautiful in her own way!  This obsession with appearances is so destructive and toxic.  The men who focus on it need to be avoided because they are dismissing like 90% of the normal population of women (who are more amazing and beautiful in their own ways).[/quote]

This sounds like participation trophy territory. Not all people, male or female, are beautiful. Not even close.

If you can peel or scratch it off it isn’t true beauty.

That’s just the way it is. I do think the world would be a better place for women if women, about 95% of whom aren’t beautiful just stopped spending time in the pursuit of beauty.

Get fit fine, but all of the makeup, killing yourself at the gym and all around plastic just to, I don’t know, look lacquered and put together is such a waste of time.

Instead read a book, volunteer for a cause, help an old lady across the street, just do something else. 
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