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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s not that MIT doesn’t want them, it’s they are not a great fit. IB is more centered on humanities.

If math and science are done at HL level in IB, that’s still only two stem classes. MIT applicants take AP calculus and statistics and often math dual enrollment classes, plus 3-4 AP science classes. Meanwhile IB students take Theory of knowledge, CAS stuff, and classes that don’t move the needle much at MIT: foreign language, art, social sciences etc.

It’s hard to be competitive from IBDP when AP students take 8-10 stem exams alone, and get their results early to add to the application. Probably the same for Caltech or other competitive stem colleges.
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And yet we see questions on here all the time asking if you really need 4 years of foreign languages and the answer is often that you should try. And my DD is an IB DP program and does not need to take an art class. She has enough room in her schedule to take 2 science courses + her math class. [/quote]

MIT recommends two years of foreign language in high school, so IB is at a disadvantage since it requires four years.[/quote]you are implying that taking four years of a language would be a disadvantage applying to MIT?

Check your middle schools, they may teach 1-2 years[/quote]

I made it clear it’s two years of foreign language in high school.

It’s the opportunity cost, instead of two years of foreign language, one could take stem classes instead.[/quote]

Plenty of students do both language and stem. What about Humanities at MIT?[/quote]

Not plenty, a mere handful, as in 50 out of 11000.[/quote]

Are those 50 typically IBDP students or a mix of AP + dual enrollment?[/quote]

IBDP is not that special. AP also offers the AP Capstone Diploma and nobody is making a huge deal about it even if they are comparable. [/quote]

This. Never understood in what way IBDP is better than taking the equivalent AP classes.

It’s not, and you’re so limited on when and what classes you can take, it’s just not worth it. [/quote]
IB HL sciences are two years, so its common for the first year to be taught together with AP. So the 2nd year of HL is material AP students wouldn't get.

So if a students schedule allows they could take IB Bio HL YR 1, IB Bio HL YR 2 instead of just AP Bio. And then also IB chem YR1 & YR2 INSTEAD of Ap chem. Ib physics is not calculus based so not useful to take that over Physics C[/quote]

AP Chem and Bio take one year, while IB HL classes take two years, but both AP and IB  are equivalent to a two semester introductory course. There’s no extra material covered in IB classes, they just review more basic concepts and are slower paced.[/quote]Are you saying that after taking YR1 which is just AP, they are not learning anything in YR2?[/quote]

No, I’m saying the first year in IB HL is not “just” AP.

Before making these claims at least check a course syllabus.[/quote]Let me clarify. At many of the IB schools around here, for science, IB HL YR1 and AP are taught as the same class. IB HL YR2 is then a separate class. So , if IB HL YR1 and AP are taught the same materials, what do you think is taught in IB HL YR2?[/quote]

You’re misinformed. Name the school from “around there” that has the first year of the IB science class teaching the same material as the AP class. Why do you present these as fact when it’s clearly not true?
[/quote]okay[/quote]

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