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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How can you be NMSF with only 1390 sat? Is that a typo?[/quote]

Not a typo. Nmf is based on psat, not sat

I also have a junior with a psat index of 223 (so likely to be nmsf in VA) who, so far, only has a 1380 on the SAT. Planning on taking it again, but it is what it is.[/quote]

Nice to meet another family in the same boat. Here’s to both our kids increasing their SAT score. Where is your child planning to apply if you don’t mind me asking? I feel that 1390 score is so on the edge at most places. She wants to apply to UMD so trying to decide if we should submit. Definitely not to UVA. Interestingly, when I look back at average SAT scores for U Penn in 2019 (pre-Covid), the 50% range started at 1420 versus 1500 today. Definitely some test score inflation thanks to test optional. Not saying that the school will ever go back to those lower numbers, but an interesting data point.[/quote]

So, UVA is still test optional. We are in the fortunate position of our kids being able to go test optional and also listing that nmf, meaning that the schools will know they don't have a terrible sat score (assuming they make [b]the cutoff for nmf, which is the commended index[/b])

My kid is applying to UVA, William and Mary, VT, VCU, Northeastern, Emory, Kenyon, Oberlin and Susquehanna. She is also trying with the idea of Penn 😁 (the list is in flux)[/quote]
Them cutoff for NMSF is not the same as the commended index unless you are from a low scoring state
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There is a SAT requirement for nmf, in addition to the psat requirement. For the psat score, you need to be in the top one percent of your state. For the sat, you need a "confirming score" which is usually the commended cutoff.

https://www.compassprep.com/psat-national-merit-faq/
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