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Reply to ""No Other Land" Palestinian Co-Director Lynched, Beaten By Zionists in the West Bank"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Along the lines of “not all Israelis” or “not all Palestinians” - I keep seeing people referred to as “Zionists”. I don’t understand the difference between a Zionist and a “person who supports Israel”. Are they the same? Is a Zionist a bit more aggressive, something like “a person who supports Israel AND believes Palestinians should be moved/killed?” Thanks for any insight. [/quote] Zionists want a Jewish state that excludes all other religions. Prior to the creation of Israel in 1948 there were Palestinian Christians, Muslims and Jews living peacefully on the same land. Zionists want to remove all the Christians and Muslims and claim the land for Jews only. And they believe “God” gives them this right. [/quote] Please--there were tons of actual incidents of ethnic cleansing going on by all sides prior to '48. Please consider why this poster wants you to believe that the Palestinian mandate was some sort of diversity utopia until the establishment of the state of Israel. Leftists are great at at reclaiming and making up words and then forcing everyone else to "do the research and work" to figure out if what they're saying actually makes any sense-- but at that point enough damage is done. Take a few loaded words that have well established historical contexts--Nazism, Apartheid, Fascism--and loosely associate them with Israel and eventually something will stick. Zionism literally just means that you think Israel (Zion) should be the Jewish people's soverign homeland and no--that does not mean or require the total exclusion of other ethnic groups and religions. Does it have to be a MAJORITY Jewish state? Most would say yes b/c by definition it would likely stop being a soverign Jewish nation if Jews were a minority. Maybe that sounds racist when compared with the melting pot that is the United States but yeah--the U.S. is a really unique outlier. Most countries are not that religiously and ethincally diverse including ALL of Israel's immediate neighbors. Right now Israel is about 75% Jewish and 20% Muslim. Where are all the Jews of Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, etc? They got summarily kicked out in '48 and were forced to migrate to Israel--which at the time was mostly a barrenless backwater. Yes---half of Israel's Jewish population are Arab Jews who have absolutely no "right of return." There are Arab political parties that participate in the Israeli Knesset and past and current Arabs (Christian and Muslim) sitting on Israel's supreme court. Major road signs in Israel are typically written in both Hebrew and Arabic (and often English too). It's not a perfect country but by definition zionists living in the w. bank are going to be more extremist than your typical Israeli. But posters like the OP love using them as an example to push a narrative that Israel is somehow uniquely bigoted while conveniently ignoring how all of Israel's neighbors have become nearly monolithically Muslim and the fact that the middle east as a whole used to be a lot more religiously and ethnically diverse than it is today.[/quote] So, basically, the same old whataboutism distraction? Got it. Israel is no worse, but no better, than any of its neighbors. Quite imoressive![/quote]
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