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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As a teenager i was an atheist but always felt like I was running after faith, or maybe atheism was temporary and God was going to get me someday, at the end of my story.

And then I realized I could wait God out in church, doing the rituals, being part of a community...fine, I'm here, come get me. I still don't really believe. I don't have the sense of a beautiful ending anymore either. But I'm waiting in God's house, trying to follow Jesus, and maybe that's the closest I'm ever going to get to faith. [/quote]

Are you saying that you'd like to believe, but you just don't? and never did? and you've gone to church all this time?[/quote]

I don't know if I'd say "just don't and never did." [b]I think American Protestants have a tendency to say belief = certainty and I have never felt certain. [/b]But I think that is a very limited idea of belief that doesn't leave room for doubt as a form of wrestling with doubt, or hope, or actual practice, which are all parts of Christian life and better appreciated in Catholic and Orthodox traditions. Is taking communion a form of faith? I think so. [/quote]

Exact opposite. Belief=faith and faith, by definition, does not equal certainty.[/quote]

Not sure what your definition of either belief or faith is. Some people say both belief and faith to mean certainty about specific propositions. I find people who are more concerned with hope, doubt, and practice tend to talk about faith but not so much about belief. Just saying they are the same isn't super helpful. We may be more in agreement than not, but I'm not sure. [/quote]

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