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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why supposed liberals are so enamored of cheap or "free" grad student labor, I'll never understand. Grad students should be paid a living wage.[/quote]

I do advocate for grad students to be paid a living wage, and even if/when they do, they would still be cheaper than workers in industry. Nice straw man though.

-A researcher who was paid a living wage, with no TA requirement, during graduate school, and now trains graduate students who end up in academia and industry. [/quote]

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth.  You say you advocate for them to be paid a living wage: that means they are not typically paid a living wage. You say "if/when" they do: that also means they are not typically paid a living wage currently. I'm genuinely glad it worked out for you (and a few others), but don't expect me to cheer the current system that screws starry-eyed grad students.

This is a real problem, not a "straw man." [/quote]

Nope, you're putting words in my mouth. You can google NIH stipends for graduate researchers online and see what they're paid. I do advocate for students nation-wide (whether they attend a tier 1 research institution or not) to get a living wage. I do not think that I was screwed in the current system, and considering how well my students do on the job market, I'm highly confident they are not getting screwed. The students that get screwed go to small universities with a high TA requirement that stymies their progress in lab. Even if we paid those guys (maybe you?) a living wage, they would be cheaper than paying those in industry.[/quote]

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