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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Why don’t states look at states whose students  consistently test higher than students in other states.  [/b]

Massachusetts is almost always number one in school performance.  This most recent results show they were number one in 4th and 8th grades in both math and reading.  New Hampshire was in top ten for all subjects.  These two states have location in common but not much else.

Neither state offers gifted programs, the elementary schools are not put together by taking a test in kindergarten in some states or 3rd grade in others.

On the other hand the consistently dismal  bottom of the barrel states of New Mexico and West Virginia test kids in kindergarten.   There is a lot of poverty in these states but the students as a whole would do much better in a class with mixed ability.

Other states that don’t separate elementary schools are Rhode Island, Colorado, Indiana, Minnesota, New York, North Dakota,  South Dakota, Wyoming, Vermont, Washington, Indiana. Connecticut has no programming. .   California has programs for students who have IQs over 150.

The better than average states in this group of mixed classrooms are Colorado, Indiana, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Washington, Connecticut, Indiana

It’s not all of them but the states who teach mixed elementary school and don’t separate students by test have better performing students overall.  
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This will be flawed and incomplete data.

In reality, you really have to look at - SES, Race, mother's level of education, and if the students are being supplemented at home. [/quote]

It is incomplete data, of course they would have to do a lot more than that but it’s not all about home life either.  Most states have wealthy suburbs, a lot of middle class suburbs, cities, immigrants.

A lot of posters here are saying their kids don’t read complete books, they don’t memorize multiplications, they use chrome books way too much.   These issues should be looked at too.  The states need to look at what’s going on in the classroom and the states that are below average should be required to find out what they need to do to at least get their students to test average. [/quote]

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