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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is asked over and over every week.
Ivy+ has a fairly consistent definition based on studies using that term and defining it as The 8 ivies plusMIT Stanford Duke Uchicago. Most people would add the perennial T10 schools Caltech, Northwestern, Hopkins. Thats the T-15. After that using traditional strength of student body ranking the rest of the T25 are:
UCB, WashU, Rice, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, CMU, UCLA, Mich, UVa, ordered variously based on personal preference and bias but basically everyone agrees these are the 16-25 group of schools. [/quote]
No we don't, Emory is T25, UVA (and maybe Umich) are not. Emory has been Top 20 for years while UVA has never been. [/quote]

Emory? lol no [/quote]
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/emory-university-1564
Currently ranked 24
https://www.aronfrishberg.com/projects/usnehas historically been ranked higher than UVA for 30 years. [/quote]
The second link is broken, here's another. 
UVA was ranked as low as 28 in 2020. Emory has never been ranked lower than 24. UVA is T30, Emory is T20/25. UVA rose because of the methodology changes that started in 2021. 
https://publicuniversityhonors.com/us-news-rankings-2025-which-universities-have-gained-or-lost-the-most-since-2018/[/quote]

No, it didn’t. It was ranked 23 in 2015, then 26, 24, 25, 25 before 28 in 2020. Your 28 is cherry-picked. Its ranking has been incredibly consistent for a decade.[/quote]
I am not cherry picking. You and others decided to cherry pick Emory out of a "undisputed list" of T25 schools when Emory was ranked 20 in 2022, and 24 today, its lowest rank. Yet UVAs highest ranks before the methodology changes was 25 and 24 today, ranked as low as 28. Yet UVA is T25, and Emory isnt??? Yea im on to you. [/quote]

That was the first comment I made in this exceptionally stupid debate so, no, you are not “on to” anything. Again, UVA’s ranking has been remarkably consistent for about a decade, with the 28 being the one, cherry-picked outlier (I noticed you conveniently ignored the 23 in 2015, but cherry picking is what you do).[/quote]
UVA has been consistently in and out of the T25. Thus it's a T30. [/quote]

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